Im a Catholic convert with a lot to learn still, so please excuse my ignorance. Hmmm. In Catholic canon law, under certain circumstances absent jurisdiction is replaced according to CIC c.144 1. He has a Ph.D. in Theology and Religious studies from The Catholic University of America, specializing in historical theology and early Christianity. blog represents my own opinions and I am solely responsible for its content. clergy and faithful can experience a valuable share of
renew and improve their knowledge of church Latin." Thats clearly the message of the Gospel, of Jesus Christ, and of the Church. Many Catholicsand unfortunately some poorly educated priests are among themwrongly think that the mere fact that a man has been ordained a priest automatically renders him able to administer validly all the sacraments that priests normally celebrate. But as we saw in the abovementioned Are SSPX Sacraments Valid? [3] That said, the CDF neither instructed nor encouraged anyone to check up on their baptism. He gave out good, detailed study guides for his tests. But the more he immersed himself in Scripture the more he found to support the Catholic faith, and in 1992 he entered the Catholic Church. They encourage magical thinking and distract from the works necessary for salvation: feeding the hungry, giving drink to the thirsty, visiting the sick, praying for others, etc. revised edition of Code Annotated, English-speaking
After all, one cannot give what one does not have. The last priest said: God forgives you and so do I (really, thats what he actually said). Why is I absolve you from your sins correct, but not May God absolve you from your sins? The Church supplies jurisdiction. Winer's Grammar, 122 (116)); with specification of place, Acts 8:1; Acts 11:22; Romans 16:1; 1 Corinthians 4:17; 1 Corinthians 6:4; Revelation 2:1, 8, etc. Short answer, thats not really my business. WebTranslation of "Supplet" in English. 129). I understand the concept of Ecclesia supplet (1983 CIC 144.1) to describe the Churchs power to supply, under limited circumstances, jurisdiction for an act. Ecclesia suplet has nothing to do with it. Since what was defective was sacramental form, I don't see how the Church's ability to supply jurisdiction helps our penitent. What was up with that guy? If you know you were mis-baptized, you should be re-baptized correctly. Greg Hillis (@gregorykhillis) August 23, 2020. Remember him? Q: You mentioned in Invalid Baptisms and Unaccountable Clergy that when Father Hood [of the Archdiocese of Detroit, Michigan] discovered that his own baptism was invalid and he was not a priest, that meant all the weddings, confirmations, and anointing of the sick which he had celebrated were invalid too. The Church teaches that the desire (votum) for the sacrament is sufficient for salvation. Matthew 18:17 N-DFSGRK: NAS: to them, tell it to the church; and ifKJV: tell [it] unto the church: butINT: tell [it] to the church if moreover, Matthew 18:17 N-GFSGRK: NAS: even to the church, let him be to you as a GentileKJV: he neglect to hear the church, let him beINT: also the church he fail to listen to let him be, Acts 5:11 N-AFSGRK: NAS: over the whole church, and over allKJV: upon all the church, and uponINT: all the church and upon, Acts 7:38 N-DFSGRK: NAS: This is the one who was in the congregation in the wildernessKJV: in the church inINT: in the congregation in the, Acts 8:1 N-AFSGRK: NAS: against the church in Jerusalem,KJV: against the church whichINT: against the church which [was] in, Acts 8:3 N-AFSGRK: NAS: [began] ravaging the church, enteringKJV: he made havock of the church, entering intoINT: was destroying the church by the, Acts 9:31 N-NFSGRK: ' NAS: So the church throughout allKJV: Then had the churches rest throughoutINT: indeed then churches throughout all, Acts 11:22 N-GFSGRK: NAS: the ears of the church at Jerusalem,KJV: the ears of the church whichINT: ears of the church which was, Acts 11:26 N-DFSGRK: NAS: they met with the church and taughtKJV: with the church, andINT: in the church and taught, Acts 12:1 N-GFSGRK: NAS: belonged to the church in order to mistreatKJV: certain of the church.INT: of the church, Acts 12:5 N-GFSGRK: NAS: fervently by the church to God.KJV: without ceasing of the church unto GodINT: by the church to, Acts 13:1 N-AFSGRK: NAS: there were at Antioch, in the church that was [there], prophetsKJV: there were in the church that was atINT: the being church prophets and, Acts 14:23 N-AFSGRK: ' NAS: for them in every church, having prayedKJV: in every church, and had prayedINT: for them in every church elders having prayed, Acts 14:27 N-AFSGRK: NAS: and gathered the church together,KJV: had gathered the church together,INT: having gathered together the church they declared all that, Acts 15:3 N-GFSGRK: NAS: being sent on their way by the church, they were passing throughKJV: by the church, they passed throughINT: by the church passed through, Acts 15:4 N-GFSGRK: NAS: they were received by the church and the apostlesKJV: of the church, andINT: by the church and the, Acts 15:22 N-DFSGRK: NAS: with the whole church, to chooseKJV: with the whole church, to send chosenINT: all the church having chosen men, Acts 15:41 N-AFPGRK: NAS: strengthening the churches.KJV: Cilicia, confirming the churches.INT: strengthening the churches, Acts 16:5 N-NFPGRK: NAS: So the churches were being strengthenedKJV: were the churches establishedINT: indeed Therefore churches were strengthened in the, Acts 18:22 N-AFSGRK: NAS: up and greeted the church, and went downKJV: saluted the church, he went downINT: having greeted the church he went down to, Acts 19:32 N-NFSGRK: NAS: thing and some another, for the assembly was in confusionKJV: for the assembly wasINT: indeed the church confused and, Acts 19:39 N-DFSGRK: NAS: in the lawful assembly.KJV: in a lawful assembly.INT: the lawful assembly it will be solved, Acts 19:41 N-AFSGRK: NAS: this he dismissed the assembly.KJV: spoken, he dismissed the assembly.INT: he dismissed the assembly, Acts 20:17 N-GFSGRK: NAS: to him the elders of the church.KJV: and called the elders of the church.INT: elders of the church. A: The notion of ecclesia supplet (literally the Church supplies) is a canonical notion where, in certain situations, the Church herself supplies for a required grant of the power of jurisdiction or executive power of governance to a capable person to place an act (such as a sacramental act) validly where such a necessary grant is either missing or was granted defectively. [6] To do this without permission is illicit, though still valid. Please check the Archives firstits likely your question was already addressed. Winers Grammar, 50, 4a. [5] CIC 860 1, Apart from a case of necessity, baptism is not to be conferred in private houses, unless the local ordinary has permitted it for a grave cause., [6] See CIC 861 2, When an ordinary minister is absent or impeded, a catechist or another person designated for this function by the local ordinary, or in a case of necessity any person with the right intention, confers baptism licitly., [7] See footnote 13 in the CDF document, which cites S. : a political assembly of citizens of ancient Greek states. WebBuy Access; Help; About; Contact Us; Cookies; Encyclopedias | Text editions (1) Common error doesnt equate to ignorance of what the law says and how the Church functions. Lets pretend, by way of example, that a family contacts the parish because an elderly relative is dying, and a permanent deacon arrives to administer the sacrament of anointing of the sick. Everyone knows that he is a deacon, so there is no error there; but lets say that the family does not understand that only an ordained priest can validly celebrate this sacrament (as per c. 1003.1, and see also What Can (and Cant) a Deacon Do?). Does this therefore constitute common error? Not at allbecause there are literally millions of people all around the world who could tell them immediately that a deacon has no ability to administer this sacramentincluding, of course, the pastor of the parish. Thus if a deacon attempted to celebrate the sacrament of anointing of the sick, it would be invalid, and canon 144.1 would not apply. [2] I can assure you this is the correct masculine singular of Twitterati. What if he stopped paying attention during confession and mindlessly recited the words of absolution while thinking about baseball? This is not the ekklsia: an assembly, a (religious) congregation, a gathering of citizens called out from their homes into some public place; an assembly, any gathering or throng of men assembled by chance or tumultuously, an assembly of Christians gathered for worship. Unless you know that you were baptized invalidly, stop thinking about it right now. Archbishop John J. Myers, The 1917 Pio-Benedictine Code of Canon Law, "the
If you are still worried, you should comfort yourself (and others) with the fundamental principles of Catholic theology: in cases of human error, the Church supplies (Ecclesia supplet) what is lacking in the sacraments; when the sacraments cannot be obtained, desire for the sacrament (votum sacramenti) is sufficient; and, most importantly, God desires all people to be saved and is absolutely free; he is not limited by the sacraments in the slightest, even though he has promised us his grace through them. Take a second to support Where Peter Is on Patreon! Fr. I would assume that formula would be invalid. She founded this website to provide clear answers to canonical questions asked by ordinary Catholics, without employing all the mysterious legalese that canon lawyers know and love. Salvo sapientiorum iudicio. All rights reserved. Is it jurisdiction for situations in which a person operating in the name of the Church lacks the faculties to execute a particular act? In recent months, I had the occasion to go to confession to three different priests. The Athenian Ecclesia, for which exists the most detailed record, was already functioning in Dracos day ( c. 621 bc ). Refusing First Holy Communion to Children Who Are Ill-Prepared, Invalid Baptisms and Unaccountable Clergy. It's easy! Take up our cross and follow Him. For example, a senile priest might get confused during the Eucharistic prayer and accidentally either omits or distorts the epiklesis (invocation of the Holy Spirit) or the words of institution (This is my body, This is the cup of my blood). Although I am sure there are fruitful debates among theologians about what exactly the Church can and cannot supply, the basic principle is simple enough. For this one must voluntarily turn away from God (mortal sin) and persist in that state all the way to the end (CCC 1037). But Fr. I believe this situation is similar to that of: a priest who ad libs the words of consecration where he would most likely end up with an invalid Mass; although, it is said that if he should ad lib any other parts of the canon, he would be acting illicitly (and perhaps sinfully), but the Mass does not become invalid. So now Maria has the answer to her question, and lets hope that other curious Catholics do too. In sacramental celebrations, the Church supplies a missing faculty if the conditions specified in canon 144.1 are present; but it doesnt supply anything else. All the more reason, then, why our clergy have to be especially careful to administer the sacraments with care, so that there is no doubt as to their validity. Was Our Lord joking when he said Unless you eat of the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood you have no life within you (John 6:53)? Someone elses mistake is by definition involuntary. It sounds more like doubt of fact to me, e.g.). Like every good canon lawyer, Fr. especially : the periodic meeting of the Athenian citizens for conducting public business and for considering affairs In factual or legal common error and in positive and probable doubt of jurisdiction, CIC, can. In sociology, the term is used to refer to a religious group that most all members of a society belong to. CanonLaw.info and this Blog, Receive
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The sacraments work automatically, one might say, because it is Christ who does the work. We need to be wary lest we assume too quickly that Ecclesia supplet will remedy serious mistakes in ministry just because they were not the fault of the faithful. No. None of the content of this website may be reproduced, either in whole or in part, without the advance written permission of the author. The CDFs decision was meant to underscore the importance of the Catholic/Augustinian understanding of baptism as Christ who baptizes and to stop clerics from misbehaving. see GREEK ek see GREEK kaleo Forms and Transliterations ekklesia ekklesa ekklsia ekklsa ekklesiai ekklesai ekklesi ekklsiai ekklsai ekklsi ekklesiais ekklesais ekklsiais ekklsais ekklesian ekklesan ekklsian ekklsan ekklesias ekklesas ekklsias ekklsas ekklesion ekklesin ekklsin ekklsinLinksInterlinear Greek Interlinear Hebrew Strong's Numbers Englishman's Greek Concordance Englishman's Hebrew Concordance Parallel Texts. Certainly not. Posted July 30, 2009. Webcanon 18. https://wherepeteris.com/author/adam-rasmussen/, Human Words, Divine Authority: Dei Verbum, chapter 3, Are there any mistakes in the Bible? Regrettably, the danger of understanding the sacraments as magic spells is recurring right now because of confusion about the CDF decision. the universal (total) body of believers whom God calls out from the world and into His eternal kingdom. Ecclesiastical Latin to children, young people, and adults for
the Catholic Church faces. Besides being an author, Jimmy is the Senior Apologist at Catholic Answers, a contributing editor to Catholic Answers Magazine, and a weekly guest on "Catholic Answers Live." I understand the concept of Ecclesia supplet (1983 CIC 144.1) to describe the Church's power to supply, under limited circumstances, jurisdiction for an act. If a person knows as a matter of fact that they were baptized invalidly, then they should, in obedience to the popes decision, get re-baptized. the name is transferred to the assembly of faithful Christians already dead and received into heaven: Hebrews 12:23 (on this passage see in , b. and , at the end). Regular readers may remember the situation recounted several years ago in How Can You Tell a Real Priest From a Fake? In that case, a man who hadnt been ordained at all was masquerading as a Catholic priest, and had convinced many clergy that he was the real thing. When his true identity became known, all the sacraments which he had supposedly administered were acknowledged to be invalidwith the exception of baptisms, since anyone with the right intention can validly baptize (c. 861.2, and see Laypeople Can Always BaptizeBut When Should They? and What Happens When the Clergy Refuse to Baptize, Because of the Virus?). That case differed tremendously from Father Hoods in terms of culpability, because the man knew full well that he wasnt a priest, and was deliberately deceiving both clergy and faithful; but in terms of the sacramental effect of his actions, the result was the same. Ecclesia supplet didnt help in those cases either. Asisto a misa casi a diario y la frmula que emplea el sacerdote en la consagracin es: Web(Lat. the whole body of Christians scattered throughout the earth; collectively, all who worship and honor God and Christ in whatever place they may be: Matthew 16:18 (where perhaps the Evangelist employs although Christ may have said ); 1 Corinthians 12:28; Ephesians 1:22; Ephesians 3:10; Ephesians 5:23ff,27,29,32; Philippians 3:6; Colossians 1:18, 24; with the genitive of the possessor: , Acts 20:28 (R Tr marginal reading WH ); , Galatians 1:13; 1 Corinthians 15:9; 1 Timothy 3:15. cc. The letter
Such a distortion is alien to what Augustine was talking about. many years. All that being said, within the specific context of canon 144.1, and particularly with regard to the administration of the sacraments as in Marias question, the term executive power of governance is refreshingly clear. In cases like those weve just discussed above, involving common error or doubt of fact or law, the canon tells us that the Church supplies the faculty to celebrate a sacrament validly. The actual sacrament doesnt even require the person doing the baptism to be a Christian. Maybe this is a quibble between canonists, but I'm not so sure. Ecclesia supplet means the Church supplies jurisdiction where it is lacking. ecclesia supplet. Since there is almost always no way to check whether it was done correctly, in the very unlikely event that it was done wrongly without anyone knowing, the Church supplies what was lacking. ), i. e. Christian assemblies, in contrast with those of the Jews, Galatians 1:22; , gathered from the Gentiles, Romans 16:4; , composed of the saints, 1 Corinthians 14:33. ' , the church in one's house, i. e. the company of Christians belonging to a person's family; others less aptly understand the phrase of the Christians accustomed to meet for worship in the house of someone (for as appears from 1 Corinthians 14:23, the whole Corinthian church was accustomed to assemble in one and the same place; (but see Lightfoot on Colossians 4:15)): Romans 16:5; 1 Corinthians 16:19; Colossians 4:15; Philemon 1:2. If you love legalese, with this canon youve won the jackpot. Dr. Robert
e "Directeur de centre spirituel H/F Orsay - Orsay" - Ecclsia RH met son expertise au service des accompagne dirigeants dans la mise en place dune politique RH innovante inspire par une vision chrtienne de la personne et du travail. But who in their right mind makes their decisions in life based on this kind of doubt? Heres an old, but interesting and directly relevant exchange between Catholic priests, with a real-life example of an elderly and confused priest who consecrated the Host at Mass, but then forgot to say the words of consecration over the chalice. Apparently a second priest wrongly assured the questioner that Ecclesia supplet in this case; but input from a third priest rightly notes that what was missing here was not a faculty (which isnt needed to celebrate Mass validly anyway! Kennedy, "deserves
Strong's Greek 1577114 Occurrences 33 Occ. 7 Occ. 18 Occ. 20 Occ. 29 Occ. 7 Occ. Dei Verbum, chapter 3, The Old Testament is not second-class Scripture, Printable Rosary Guides Full Page and Wallet Sized, the Archdiocese of Detroits imprudent decision, in the name of the Creator, Redeemer, and Sanctifier, 2007 blog post by anti-Francis canonist Ed Peters, Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Theological Change and the Reform of the Mass, https://www.facebook.com/wherepeterisblog/. Hoffmans correct response to a reader who wondered whether the absolution he received was valid, given that the confessor changed the words of absolution from I absolve you from your sins to May God . WebKan. . absolve you from your sins. Fr. I always took the meaning of the church supplies to mean that the intentions of the Church in this sacrament make it valid, making up for the deficiencies in its adminstration, or in the person administering it. Why the Liturgical Reform? A recent example (TCA, March/April 2007, p. 22) was Fr. Hoffman's correct response to a reader who wondered whether the absolution he received was valid, given that the confessor changed the words of absolution from "I absolve you from your sins" to "May God . email notice of blog updates. Even an atheist can baptize someone validly, provided that it is their intention to do so. Why is Google hiding the posts on this website in its search results? Click here for more information.. Why Cant These Priests Ever Celebrate a Valid Catholic Wedding? The document was in no way was meant to sow doubt about the validity of peoples baptisms. Is it Valid If I Marry Him Just For His Money? Meanwhile, the rest of us need to be wary lest we assume too quickly that Ecclesia supplet will remedy serious mistakes in ministry just because they were not the fault of the faithful. The Eucharist and Sacramental Validity, Part I, Is Confession Still an Easter Duty? The words, May God forgive you ); and I even think He provides by giving the faithful the confidence to contact their confessors, and if necessary their bishops, to inform them of serious violations of the gift that is sacramental confession. The desire to receive confession, coupled with perfect contrition, provides the necessary grace. 1. among the Greeks from Thucydides (cf. This is stated in the Catechism of the Catholic Church and even italicized for emphasis: God has bound salvation to the sacrament of Baptism, but he himself is not bound by his own sacraments (CCC 1257). ecclesia supplet. canonlawmadeeasy@yahoo.com Once again, used improperly. 144 1. The Magisterium has said nothing either positive or negative about Ecclesia supplet in such cases. ; with added, 1 Thessalonians 2:14; 2 Thessalonians 1:4; , Romans 16:16; with mention of the place, as , , etc. Copyright 2020 Adoremus. But if a word like absolve, exists in latin absolvit, english absolve, spanish absuelvo and other languages, there is a diference between forgive and absolve. So when the priest says I absolve you,it is Jesus who is saying I absolve you. Is he the only one? It is just Church law that makes it a sin for someone other than a priest (or bishop or deacon I think) to baptize except under extraordinary circumstances. That was not the purpose of the decision, and it does not even address it. Francis Hoffman knows there is much more to the Catholic Church than canon law. The minister is merely a conduit of holiness that does not belong to him. The Church does not supply salvation where salvation is lacking. Or is it the grace that would come from a sacrament that would otherwise be invalid? So what would constitute common error? Well, lets reuse the same example, and now imagine that everyone is convinced the elderly relative is at deaths doorincluding his doctor. Any reasonable person would look at the situation and conclude that yes, the death of this sick person is likely coming soon. The family calls the parish, and the pastor (or some other priest of the parish) arrives to administer the sacraments. And lets say that during the course of his visit, he discovers that the person has never received the sacrament of confirmation. . Web1. I know whats Hes said through His Gospel, through His Church. [4] The Eastern Churches, incidentally, use the formula [Name] is baptized rather than I baptize, so this whole issue is irrelevant for them. Gravel really have permission to hold off Help support
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Monsignor Raymond Burke, Austrian "excommunication" reports are a-muddle, Denial of Communion is not Excommunication. Perhaps more importantly, the issue is not about people who know they were baptized invalidly. Again, to worry about this is thinking of the sacraments as magic. 144 1. Are there any norms regarding the choice of which Eucharistic Prayer to use? The idea you are describing seems to be exactly the myth that Ed Peters is saying is untrue. Consider that 99.9999% of the people who have ever been baptized have no such video. 3. Part II, such is not the case, because there are some sacraments routinely celebrated in every Catholic parish on earth which require more than that. The sacraments of Penance (discussed at length in Can All Priests Always Hear Confessions?) and Marriage (see Why Would a Wedding in Our College Chapel Be Invalid? and Why Cant These Priests Ever Celebrate a Valid Catholic Wedding? among others) require not only that the minister of the sacrament is validly ordained, but also that he have the faculty required by law to celebrate the sacrament. And only in certain specific circumstances does a priest have the faculty to administer the sacrament of Confirmation, addressed in Can a Priest Administer the Sacrament of Confirmation? which was already cited above. It is the supplying for the absence of jurisdiction in a priest or a bishop: " Ecclesia supplet ." In the Middle Ages, this was codified into the Latin formula ex opere operato, which means from the work having been worked, where work refers to a sacrament. definitive English translation of the 1917 Code." You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. PO Box 385 They may not believe in baptism or even really understand it, but if they do understand that it is a ritual of the Christian religion that makes a person into a Christian, that is enough. Mi duda es si se realiza la transubstanciacin. This particular situation may seem unique, but it is always possible to form irrational doubts about sacramental validity. Who decides what is authentic liturgy. Plural, : Acts 15:41; 1 Corinthians 7:17; 2 Corinthians 8:19; Revelation 1:4; Revelation 3:6, etc. If the information on this website has helped you, please consider making a contribution so that it can continue to help others. Are there those who are unbaptized who get into heaven? To this I have two replies: firstly, that claim is unsubstantiated. It means that the grace of a sacrament is independent of any considerations regarding the worthiness of the minister. Does Fr. Your comments? JoAnna, about this most serious canonical penalty. Hauled out on a regular basis to cover up the faults and foibles of the all-too-human elements in the Church. The cases of common error and positive and probable doubt of law or fact are not inventions of the SSPX but are Catholic exceptions to the normal disciplinary rule which have exited long before the SSPX because the supreme aim of the Church is the salvation of souls. This Permanent Link, Sacred
This amounts to common error of fact, because the man seemed to everyone to be dying, but he really wasnt. In this sort of case, canon 144.1 would indeed apply (well see exactly how in a moment). Excommunication and the Catholic Church: Straight Answers to
First of all, the canon states that the concept of Ecclesia supplet is applicable in two cases: The purpose was to get any priests or deacons who were doing this to quit it. Hoffman, that one's efforts to seek absolution for sins in this life would somehow be rewarded by God in the next. Tonight, though, he forgot the consecration of the wine. Any ideas? Isnt God the one doing the absolving in both cases? WebThe term ecclesia, originally referring to a political assembly of citizens in ancient Athens, Greece, now refers to a congregation. Hoffman's lawyer-like, straight-talk approach. : 1 Corinthians 16:1, 19; 2 Corinthians 8:1; Galatians 1:2; , joined to Christ (see , I. In the New Testament context, the word is employed in four senses: It represents the body of Christ worldwide, over which the Lord functions as head (Mt.
WebIn cases where ecclesia supplet allows a (non-schismatic) priest who does not have faculties from the local ordinary to hear confessions, it is a valid but illicit (unlawful) celebration of the sacrament. Catholic. "Let the Church provide" has itself made good any defects in Eastern Catholic Children Receiving Latin Catholic Sacraments. He is the author of Genesis and Cosmos: Basil and Origen on Genesis 1 and Cosmology (Bible in Ancient Christianity 14; Brill, 2019). ; , 1 Thessalonians 1:1; 2 Thessalonians 1:1; , Colossians 4:16; with the genitive of the possessor, (equivalent to , Numbers 16:3; Numbers 20:4), 1 Corinthians 11:22; and mention of the place, 1 Corinthians 1:2; 2 Corinthians 1:1. Well, even though Ecclesia supplet seems of no avail here, nevertheless, we may hold that, in some way, Deus providet, that is, God provides, or God foresees. August 26, 2020, On August 6, the Vaticans Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith published a response to two dubia (questions) about clerics performing baptisms with the words We baptize you instead of I baptize you. According to their response, changing the singular to the plural invalidates the baptism and anyone baptized this way must be re-baptized. Certain priestly acts require, by Church law, not just ordination but jurisdiction. (2) We looked at a case involving doubt of fact in Are SSPX Sacraments Valid? Hoffman told the reader that such an absolution was invalid. The Church has no need to supply what is lacking since it can be obtained through the ordinary means. dietary supplement. Pardon my English, but hell no! Herodotus 3, 142) down, an assembly of the people convened at the public place of council for the purpose of deliberating: Acts 19:39. The priest must actually, acting in persona Christi, absolve you for it to be a valid sacrament. The ordinary power of governance can be either proper or vicarious. I think its kind of like that with God. While were on the subject, its important to understand what the Church doesnt supply. First and foremost, it doesnt supply holy orders. If a non-cleric administers a sacrament, and the minister of the sacrament must be a cleric for validity, canon 144.1 is of no use. This is why all the confessions, confirmations, and marriages celebrated by the unbaptized Father Hood were invalidand in these cases nobody can claim that Ecclesia supplet, because it doesnt. In Catholic canon law, under certain circumstances absent jurisdiction is replaced according to CIC c.144 1. WebEkklesia (or ecclesia) is the Greek word translated in the New Testament as "church." On a certain level, this is reminiscent of the long-debated topic in epistemology (a branch of philosophy) about how we can know we arent dreaming or otherwise living in an illusion. 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