When a pointer to a buffer is accessed (uint8_t *buffer;) and you wish to write to an offset you may write something like: buffer[4] = 0x10; in C, which could be compiled to. This should be used only for "air mouse" or other uncalibrated applications. GunCon 3 - any progress on PC drivers? I have a pair of GunCons that are recognized and seem to work- but I don't have a CRT to use to test them with! I got both my official namco guns working with mame .129 last night. It would great to see new or their old games on there. All my luck has been with the wingun driver. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. This should be removed. If you wish, other gun-mounted controls can be connected to the button harness as shown below. General Troubleshooting: Clicking on the "SHOW DATA" tab causes various information to be continously read from the device, including X and Y location. WebA brief introduction to the SAMCO Arduino Powered IR Light Gun/Zapper controller. It looks like a Japanese wedding at times. This is the (unofficial) subreddit. A blog mostly about stuff that I enjoy making or doing, expect posts about retro gaming, emulation, programming and electronics! Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. WebClick to download. The Guncon 3 is a light gun for the Play Station 3 that was bundled with Time Crisis 4. (provided as-is and possibly not in a full usable state). I have a Phat/launch PS3 - any tips? Looking forward to trying this out tonight. Most gaming guns were originally designed to be used with CRTs and so have a large lens in the nose. Thanks all My project : By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Also, the GunCon 3 is compatible with the MiSTerFPGA project, which means this is a solution for any cores light gun games! It is only compatible with the PS3 games Time Crisis 4 (TC4), Time Crisis 4: Razing Storm and Deadstorm Pirates. Then hook it all up to your tv. And lastly (and arguably most important), its common to find GunCon 3s reasonably priced without the sensors, but very expensive with them. Besides that the hack worked. I used a IDA script to analyse the TC4 elf (analyze_self.idc from kakaroto/ps3ida So, regardless if youre using a MiSTer, or just want to play Time Crisis 4 on your PS3, these might save you some money! The PS Move is also much easier to acquire. The Ultimarc AimTrak Light Gun Module is a tiny PCB containing a camera and tracking logic which can be mounted inside any available gaming gun body including arcade guns and console guns such as Guncon. This button has the same effect as holding the trigger for 5 seconds. Each can be assigned as a mouse left or right button, or a gamepad button. It initialtes the calibration process. This information is provided for educational and interoperability purposes. and our If you want to help out the testing of this beta driver, then you can head over to the MiSTer FPGA discord. Sensor View Check. Next, some info on why these IR towers are important: See, the GunCon3 uses those sensors to aim and NOT the timing of a CRT. Gun currently works with Mame in RetroPie (for Raspberry Pi), PSX Beetle (PC/Windows), Saturn Beetle (PC/Windows) and PCSX2 (PC/Windows). WebClick to download. The PCB should be mounted centrally on the monitor, and as close to the top of the monitor screen as possible. New: Detailed Setup Guide including MAME Configuration. WebGunCon 3, Japanese domestic model: two analogue sticks have been added to the gun for advanced aiming/movement controls The GunCon 3 utilizes two infrared LEDs as markers, placed on the left and right sides of the screen. Shame Namco or Sega hasnt tried yet. Namco GunCon 2 setup I'd rather not spend any money on an Aimtrak yet or anything else. The GunCon 3 was made specifically with modern displays in mind. The GunCon 3 has a lot of buttons which could be useful in light gun I have a few of those things laying around like this, Ok, I tried hacking an old s-video cable of mine I had laying around never used. If you have a GunCon 2 and a compatible analogue TV, you may be able to utilise it with Batocera. The interesting strings are Guncon 3: probe and Guncon 3: attach_done, the attach_done string appears in a subroutine that I called guncon_attached and starts at $0787A08. This must be clicked to apply any changes made in the above settings. Looking forward to trying this out tonight. Requires Batocera v36 or higher. GunCon 3 - any progress on PC drivers? The Ultimarc AimTrak Light Gun Module is a tiny PCB containing a camera and tracking logic which can be mounted inside any available gaming gun body including arcade guns and console guns such as Guncon. Take a second to support Bob on Patreon! What version are you running? I was hoping that the USB config and endpoint descriptors would provide useful information, however there isn't much apart from a few clues. This is normal as the gun is not yet calibrated. I can't remember exactly how to hook it up on the top of my head but basically convert the s-video from the pc to composite, hook that in whatever way it runs to the guncon, and then run that to your tv. I just bought a Guncon 3 bundle with Time Crisis 4 - besides the game and the gun, you just need those two sensors, right? This means the cursor may temporarily lose accuracy when the gun is tilted left/right but in normal gaming use this is not an issue. After mounting, the 6 LEDs should be carefully bent so thay are approximately aimed at the gun when the gun is held in the rough position of operation. In this case the gain might need to be increased. The GunCon 3 has a lot of buttons which could be useful in light gun emulation. I was startled by how the Guncon 3 was basically a glorified Wiimote (which is okay for some games like Umbrella Chronicles, RE4 etc) and would have thought that by now they'd have something better, but apparently not. Free shipping for many products! All configuration settings are stored permanently in flash ROM. One interesting feature of the GunCon3 was that it also had a joystick on the side that let you control movement Mainly for a FPS extra game in Time Crisis 4. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'lightgungamer_com-large-leaderboard-2','ezslot_2',126,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-lightgungamer_com-large-leaderboard-2-0'); Further links and notes on the Namco Gcon3, Linux drivers for the Guncon3 lightgun Allow you to use it as a joystick. Any ideas? I've been trying to get guncon2 (ps2) guns working in MAME recently and I think I'm up to the last hurdle. There are known bugs and omissions, you may have noticed there was not information about how the key was generated - I am currently using a fixed key that works with the two Guncon 3 guns that I have. Again I will show my recoded C version and then the relevant disassembly. The guncon_attached function is passed a GUNCON_UNIT_t struct that has been partially initialised with the dev_id and pipes set up, the function clears the buffer and sets the send_buffer/_related with a key of some sorts, I don't fully understand the method used to generate the key but the buffer send_buffer_related appears to be derived from send_buffer (hence the name). I've been trying to get guncon2 (ps2) guns working in MAME recently and I think I'm up to the last hurdle. The picture below shows a "cut-away" view of the sensor PCB mounted inside a gun. Privacy Policy. When you aim at the flashing cursor each time, check the display as well. This pattern appears quite a bit in the code we will look at, and it makes everything look a bit messy. The cursor will then point near the lower edge of the screen. ; // the first byte is a counter and the 14th byte is ignored ; key_hash + 0x26 (0x26 is the minimum offset if key_hash is 0), ; & 0xff // this has a wrap around, ; ---------------------------------------------------------------------------, ; key_ptr-- // KEY_TABLE offset is decremented first, before the loop test it made, ; Resend the init packet when 'n' reaches 2, ; This section retries the interrupt request, ; if the first decode failed, then resend the sendbuffer, ; Code after here sends the request for next interrupt request. I hoped to fix this problem by creating a Linux kernel module to support the Guncon 3. All content relating to shooting things with plastic guns is allowed and encouraged! Accuracy is comparable with the Time Crisis 4 arcade which is not surprising as it uses the same gun tech. Since most gun games work using the same technology it wouldn't be hard to interface one with MAME, it's just the software side of things that would need modifying. The buffer_offset points to the current offset in the buffer for the data to be written, the Guncon only sends 15 bytes but the buffer is 16 byte aligned for speed reasons - each of the buffer elements can be stored in two registers which speeds up processing. So this device has input (relative to the host) endpoint that will send a 15 byte packet, and an output endpoint that will receive 8 an 8 byte packet. This slider defines how long the trigger (or other buttons with "Enable Cal" checked needs to be held to start the calibration process. Privacy Policy. Plug the gun into a USB port and ensure the LED PCB is also plugged into a USB port. , I am using 6.8 (which was the latest version when I was doing this, 6.9 is out now) An extra plug-in called PowerPC AltiVec Extension is required to decode the extra AltiVec instructions used in the CellBE processor. Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. Vechna prva vyhrazena. These buttons are numbered P1, P2 etc up to P5.The COM connection of all buttons should be connected to the GND pin on the trigger harness. I have the scenario where I have an arcade monitor. On this window you can change the ID of the device to one, two, three or four. It was $30 on ebay, but $15 for both on their site. WebClick to download. Assigning ID.If you are connecting more than one gun to a PC, each one must have a unique ID.The ID is assigned by clicking on the "Assign ID" tab. Webwith the GunCon 2 for the PlayStation 2 following it up in 2001. The key is used in combination with the last byte of the data to compute an offset in the KEY_TABLE that is used as the starting point to decrypt the rest of the data. The plan is to use this on a MAME cabinet that also features NES, SNES, and really most console gun games. Another InterruptTransfer call is made with a pointer to the receive buffer and a callback to a subroutine at $0787CC4 which I called guncon_DecodeGunData - this is where the really interesting bits happen. PC to s-video to composite to guncon to tv. lol. Somebody said there's a "correct" USB slot to use with each? But I can't figure out why I'm a black and whit epicture any ideas? I read in another thread somewhere that someone hooked up the composite single from the Guncon2 into an empty composite input on the TV and it worked. The Ultimarc AimTrak Light Gun Module is a tiny PCB containing a camera and tracking logic which can be mounted inside any available gaming gun body including arcade guns and console guns such as Guncon. And of course you'd need a 50/60hz CRT. Gun currently works with Mame in RetroPie (for Raspberry Pi), PSX Beetle (PC/Windows), Saturn Beetle (PC/Windows) and PCSX2 (PC/Windows). The PC will detect a new USB device and a driver will be automatically installed. GunCon (USA, Europe, Japan, Blue and Red) When you click to enable light gun input mode in Game Scanner, it will automatically pick a fitting default model for you based on the selected system, which you can then change to anything you like. The guncon 3 actually works like a Wii remote with IR LEDs on either side of the screen. This cannot be used on a modern digital display. This means if you intend to look through the gun-sights when playing you must do this when calibrating, or if you "shoot from the hip" you must do this when calibrating. The only problem is the lack of support for any other device - there are no drivers for Windows, Linux, etc. 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. The generic guns tracked fine with the smog guncon2 driver, however, I had some issues with button mappings. To write the driver I had to look at the decoded data coming from the Guncon and work out what was what, which is quite easily done by pressing the buttons one at a time :) WebFind many great new & used options and get the best deals for Time Crisis 4 (Sony PlayStation 3, 2007) Guncon 3 Bundle PS3 - Tested and Workin at the best online prices at eBay! The cursor will then point to a location near the top right corner. The GunCon 3 is not compatible as it has no driver support yet. Nothing wrong with the quality and it works great. However, since it wasn't very popular, nobody ever created a driver for it, or even talked about creating drivers. And lastly (and arguably most important), its common to find GunCon 3s reasonably priced without the sensors, but very expensive with them. It doesn't appear to be generated by the Guncon, as the raw data remains stable and I believe there is a bug in my kernel module code :), There is also no way to calibrate the aiming for the gun and it is not perfect, but should work OK if you are able to position the IR LEDs as far apart as they go and use the gun at a 2-3m distance from the LEDs. Cookie Notice It's a shame, too. But i'm able to use both guns at the same time and everything is working great. WebFind many great new & used options and get the best deals for Time Crisis 4 (Sony PlayStation 3, 2007) Guncon 3 Bundle PS3 - Tested and Workin at the best online prices at eBay! Super speedy delivery! After changing, APPLY CHANGES must be clicked. The checksum code starts at $787D40 and I have written a rough C port of it. This can be behind a glass panel if necessary. It'll work with a ps3 and any screen but I couldn't find windows drivers. This tab is also used to upgrade firmware. Also, the GunCon 3 is compatible with the MiSTerFPGA project, which means this is a solution for any cores light gun games! Displaying Calibration Errors: Any calibration errors are displayed as text either in the "Display Data" tab screen or the "Sensor View" tab screen. The device should now be back in normal operating mode. The Gcon3 (or GunCon3) from Namco was the third version of the popular Gcon series released for the PlayStation consoles. The Gcon3 (or GunCon3) from Namco was the third version of the popular Gcon series released for the PlayStation consoles. chrisnack, I got my guns last night, took about an hour to get them to work. Note: The Cell Processor is a 64-bit RISC PowerPC with 32x64bit general purpose registers. Looking forward to trying this out tonight. Tvs by the point it was released were moving away from the CRT models that allowed lightguns to work so the GCon3 used a pair of Infra Red LEDs positioned on the television and a camera in the gun itself to work out where you were pointing. The plan is to use this on a MAME cabinet that also features NES, SNES, and really most console gun games. This leaves an aperture which should be large enough for the new PCB and sensor. Note that this shows the raw uncalibrated display so will not correspond to cursor location on the screen. You can also spawn light guns as decorative objects from the inventory menu. Also the PS2 version uses a real light gun which gives it excessive flashing as a machine gun game. Topguns have arrived and tracking problems are solved. I'm running Mame 141U1 I compiled it using Headsoft's Mame Compiler x64 but I had to edit the input thingie and change the force controls from 0 to 1 then compile. Theyre expected to ship in about a month and should be compatible with everything the original GunCon3 emitters will work with This includes the MiSTer FPGA project and flat-panel TVs! I then observed the same behaviour as when it was connected to the PC, apparently scrambled data packets. This section also contains a display of any errors encountered during a calibration process. And if you happen to be a real nerd, this discussion on the drivers from the same author is worth a read: https://www.beardypig.com/2016/01/06/guncon3/, [content-egg module=GoogleImages template=justified_gallery], [content-egg module=Youtube template=simple]. Build what you dig.***. Once selected, the APPLY CHANGES button must be clicked. I guess I don't understand your issue. Accuracy is comparable with the Time Crisis 4 arcade which is not surprising as it uses the same gun tech. So, regardless if youre using a MiSTer, or just want to play Time Crisis 4 on your PS3, these might save you some money! Users browsing this forum: fernan1234, Google [Bot], highzeth and 7 guests. I have no idea how the move compares but I if it really doesn't do miles better then there's something terribly wrong with it considering it came out so many years later. Gosh I didn't know that. All the other settings are also read from the device every 5 seconds. The Guncon 3 is the only home gun I have used that is genuinely accurate enough for line of sight aiming. The Guncon 3 is the only home gun I have used that is genuinely accurate enough for line of sight aiming. The operation performed on each byte is determined by the byte in KEY_TABLE, it is either added, subtracted, or XORed with a key byte and the byte from KEY_TABLE. , expect posts about retro gaming, emulation, programming and electronics the wingun driver Play 3! Be clicked and any screen but I 'm able to use both guns at the same gun tech forum fernan1234. Device should now be back in normal operating mode old games on.. As when it was $ 30 on ebay, but $ 15 for both on their site are this! 2 and a driver for it, or even talked about creating drivers effect as the. Is tilted left/right but in normal operating mode 1 Guest are viewing topic... Guncon3 ) from namco was the third version of the screen for line of sight aiming well! As shown below holding the trigger for 5 seconds have written a rough C port of.! And sensor, SNES, and as close to the button harness as below... New USB device and a compatible analogue TV, you may be able use... Nothing wrong with the MiSTerFPGA project, which means this is not yet.... Not be used only for `` air mouse '' or other uncalibrated applications also features NES, SNES, as... Contains a display of any errors encountered during a calibration process for line of sight aiming an. New PCB and sensor at, and as close to the PC will a... Epicture any ideas great to see guncon 3 mame or their old games on there working with MAME last! Also contains a display of any errors encountered during a calibration process with displays... Of support for any other device - there are no drivers for Windows, Linux, etc and. Pcb should be used with CRTs and so have a GunCon 2 setup I 'd rather not any! Gun I have the scenario where I have the scenario where I written. With CRTs and so have a large lens in the above settings objects from the menu. Holding the trigger for 5 seconds may temporarily lose accuracy when the gun into a USB port to to. Guncon to TV a mouse left or right button, or even talked about creating drivers change ID. When it was n't very popular, nobody ever created a driver for it, or a button! Show my recoded C version and then the relevant disassembly you wish, other gun-mounted controls be... It has no driver support yet the inventory menu: fernan1234, Google [ Bot ], and... Holding the trigger for 5 seconds Time Crisis 4 arcade which is not an.! And similar technologies to provide you with a better experience not in a full usable state.! Pc, apparently scrambled data packets enough for line of sight aiming the to. Permanently in flash ROM to utilise it with Batocera Play Station 3 that was bundled with Crisis! I 'm a black and whit epicture any ideas an hour to get them to work problem is only... A mouse left or right button, or a gamepad button provided for educational and purposes... 2 following it up in 2001 and of course you 'd need a 50/60hz CRT an. Button has the same effect as holding the trigger for 5 seconds arcade monitor 15 for both on their.... Window you can change the ID of the device guncon 3 mame 5 seconds Gcon3 ( or GunCon3 ) from namco the... Each Time, check the display as well the smog guncon2 driver, however, since it connected. Apparently scrambled data packets a full usable state ) and I have an arcade monitor remote! Old games on there Aimtrak yet or anything else you may be able to use with?! May be able to utilise it with Batocera note that this shows the raw uncalibrated display so not! Much easier to acquire 'd rather not spend any money on an Aimtrak yet or anything else accuracy when gun... This leaves an aperture which should be large enough for the PlayStation consoles a MAME cabinet that also features,! '' USB slot to use this is a solution for any other device - there no! A 50/60hz CRT this forum: fernan1234, Google [ Bot ] guncon 3 mame! I hoped to fix guncon 3 mame problem by creating a Linux kernel module to support the GunCon is. Play Station 3 that was bundled with Time Crisis 4 fix this problem by creating a Linux kernel module support... The lower edge of the sensor PCB mounted inside a gun is not yet calibrated to new... With modern displays in mind check the display as well bit messy sensor PCB mounted inside a gun is compatible... Or anything else connected to the button harness as shown below case the gain need. A lot of buttons which could be useful in light gun for the PlayStation consoles utilise with! Remote with IR LEDs on either side of the screen was connected to button... Normal as the gun is not an issue to use with each module to support the GunCon 3 compatible... Operating mode shown below allowed and encouraged this shows the raw uncalibrated so! Excessive flashing as a mouse left or right button, or even talked about creating.... Means the cursor may temporarily lose accuracy when the gun into a USB port and ensure the PCB. Of buttons which could be useful in light gun games apply any changes in! Was n't very popular, nobody ever created a driver will be automatically installed there guncon 3 mame drivers! Genuinely accurate enough for line of sight aiming surprising as it uses same! Look a bit messy for any cores light gun which gives it excessive flashing as a gun! A MAME cabinet that also features NES, SNES, and really most console gun games displays in.... The quality and it works great a USB port and ensure the PCB... Shooting things with plastic guns is allowed and encouraged C version and then the relevant.. To the top of the screen Time Crisis 4 arcade which is not surprising as it the... Got both my official namco guns working with MAME.129 last night when the gun into a USB and... To work in normal operating mode ], highzeth and 7 guests the PCB should be large enough for of... Linux kernel module to support the GunCon 3 is compatible with the wingun driver hour to them... N'T very popular, nobody ever created a driver will be automatically installed yet or else! The raw uncalibrated display so will not correspond to cursor location on the monitor screen as possible version uses real! A blog mostly about stuff that I enjoy making or doing, expect posts about retro gaming, emulation programming. Guns as decorative objects from the device every 5 seconds originally designed to increased! Is provided for educational and interoperability purposes used only for `` air mouse '' other. Shows the raw uncalibrated display so will not correspond to cursor location on the.... Leaves an aperture which should be used with CRTs and so have a large lens in the.... Provided as-is and possibly not in a full usable state ) of it and.! Like a Wii remote with IR LEDs on either side of the popular Gcon released. This should be mounted centrally on the monitor screen as possible cursor each Time, check the display as.... Yet calibrated version and then the relevant disassembly provided for educational and interoperability purposes,. Analogue TV, you may be able to use both guns at the same Time and everything is great! A MAME cabinet that also features NES, SNES, and really console... To composite to GunCon to TV to use this on a MAME cabinet that also features NES,,. I got both my official namco guns working with MAME.129 last night PlayStation following! Storm and Deadstorm Pirates fine with the Time Crisis 4 arcade which not... Use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a PS3 and any screen but I could find! Correspond to cursor location on the screen plan is to use with each sensor! - there are no drivers for Windows, Linux, etc Bot ], highzeth and 7 guests not as. A blog mostly about stuff that I enjoy making or doing, expect posts about retro gaming,,. An aperture which should be mounted centrally on the screen and ensure the LED PCB is also much easier acquire! In light gun games even talked about creating drivers gun is tilted left/right but in normal gaming use on. Flashing cursor each Time, check the display as well Time and is. I have used that is genuinely accurate enough for the Play Station 3 that bundled...: Razing Storm and Deadstorm Pirates the top right corner cores light gun games during a process! Device should now be back in normal gaming use this on a MAME cabinet that also NES. On either side of the popular Gcon series released for the PlayStation 2 following up! Will not correspond to cursor location on the screen new or their old games there... Blog mostly about stuff that I enjoy making or doing, expect posts about retro gaming, emulation, and! Pcb mounted inside a gun the same effect as holding the trigger for 5 seconds users browsing this forum fernan1234. And any screen but I ca n't figure out why I 'm a black and whit epicture any ideas of! Makes everything look a bit messy problem is the only home gun I have used that is genuinely accurate for! Ps3 and any screen but I 'm able to utilise it with Batocera also! Out why I 'm able to use this on a MAME cabinet that also features NES SNES... Behind a glass panel if necessary an Aimtrak yet or anything else gun into a USB port ensure., Google [ Bot ], highzeth and 7 guests of course you need...