THE SHOCKING LIVE TELEVISION SUICIDE OF A NEWS ANCHOR! He wrote, "In a state of frenzied arrogance around 18 months ago I took it upon myself to hurl a few digital petrol bombs at some of the countrys most beloved acts from the comfort of my hovel in Streatham. People talk about a blue pill and a red pill, he says. Trashmouths HQ in South London became a space for no-judgement experimentation. Like Saul belongs in South London, but its impossible to put down roots here because of the money. Why? Its an ethos they intend to keep sticking to. The Guardian. [17] Writing in the Observer, Miranda Sawyer described it as 'the story of a band thats always on the brink: of stardom, of madness, of brilliance, of disgrace.' PKM: Have you been working on anything with the Fat White Family since quarantine has been lifted? The book pulls no punches. We cant have you back in the house, Lias told him at the time. Given the complete absence of any kind of social life I was incredibly studious and this proved easy to accomplish. Making the thing is a never-ending agony, by the time its done youre like see you later. But how will COVID-19 effect gigs? I think that one thing with the writing that I realized, was that it was something that I could probably do, but in order to do it requires a completely different kind of discipline where Im not drinking or drugging at all. I have a voice. He looks healthy and together now a far cry from the increasingly emaciated, tortured figure who haunted the stage as the band he formed in 2011 with his brother Nathan and Saul Adamczewski slowly ripped itself apart, poisoned by drugs, alcohol and ego. Address: The Social 5 Little Portland St London W1W 7JD. Share . Thats not to discredit him, we needed that structure, but having been in that constrained position for so long, to just be like, Heres a beat, do what the fuck you want for ten minutes that felt a lot more akin to the way we perform live, where youre just howling whatever syllables come into your mouth. I dont think Ive read anybody who manages to cut that open and dissect it so well. Lias Saoudi: Most of them are in panic mode. I liked uppers and socialising and chasing girls around. The minute lockdown started to get eased in London, the old devils crept back in. A left in love with its own marginality. I think having pals like that around constantly can breed a certain kind of entitlement in you if youre not careful. The Irish News. Theres no limit to how much that kind of technology could be abused. A fantasy that Id spend ten years toying with or trying to kill, that I finally submitted myself to fully only recently, was born in me. Sarah Davachi at Lglise Saint-Eustache, Paris. THE LONESOME DEATH OF DANNY RAPP: THE FRONT MAN FOR DANNY & THE JUNIORS, YOU CANT WIN: WILLIAM S. BURROUGHS AND THE REAL JACK BLACK, JONI MITCHELL: A RECKLESS DAUGHTERS BRILLIANT JOURNEY, MY DAD IS DEAD: IMPECCABLE POST-PUNK ANGST STRAIGHT OUTTA CLEVELAND. Its absurd. Theres every kind of sentiment to be explored. Its a divorce. A self-professed humanitarian, Lias rejects the nihilist label, but he's got no problem talking drugs, art, politics . I found it therapeutic., In Fat White Family, he continues, There was an element of chaos but it was always extremely tightly controlled and orchestrated. Seeing your friends after months, the hangovers just end up blaring into each other. Theres an article called The collectors, which explores different aspects of collecting through interviews with Peter Blake, artist Andy Holden, quilt-maker Loretta Pettway Bennett, digital archivist (& activist) Stephen Ellcock & others. Under no circumstances would I ever willfully agree to that. Its hard not to get channelled into the same sort of cul-de-sacs youve been down loads of times before. Theres a scene at the end when Jeremy Irons cuts his own throat in prison, and its just a continuation of that sentiment, he argues. Fuck all you lot. ", IDLES' vocalist Joe Talbot talked about those comments in an interview with The Guardian earlier this month, "Im not virtue signalling, Im not hiding behind any sort of surrealist bullshit. It was sort of a psychotherapy exercise, except Im not remotely qualified to be doing that.. Founding members Nathan, Adamczewski and guitarist Adam Harmer had all developed serious addictions. It should be dirtier, it should be harsher., It is hard to imagine how it could be. We were dedicated to that. We were both virgins, both really timid; it took us quite a long time before we explored each others bodies in full. Heroin just f***s everything up. Harmer pitched a tent in the graveyard at the end of the road. Original reporting and incisive analysis, direct from the Guardian every morning. Im going to go and try Margate for a bit, I think being half Algerian, raised in Northern Ireland and Scotlandtheres some sort of connection there, between the Berber people and the Celtic people. I had my eyes closed the whole time and I drifted into a kind of trance. Thats a long running project. Co-written with lucidity and humour by singer Lias Saoudi and acclaimed author Adelle Stripe, Ten Thousand Apologies is that rare thing: a music book that barely features any music, a biography as literary as any novel, and a confessional that does not seek forgiveness. Julian House designedGood Pop, Bad Pop& also brought his unique graphic sensibility to bear on this edition of theNew Review. I have written a book calledGood Pop, Bad Pop, which is based around the objects I found in the loft of a house I used to live in. ^ "How The Metros are making a big noise in Peckham". I feel like an unresolved human being. But if you dont, its all about that early period where youre learning about the kind of communal experience and the way you feed off an energy in a crowd and theres this kind of like cyclone that gets whipped up. That's a pretty great show and tickets are still available. Six things you love which should be better known. Hes not proud of it but at the same time, you know, it was an incredibly bleak period for him. Yesterday (22 September), Saoudi posted an essay on The Social clarifying his opinion on IDLES. Were not good at talking about our emotions, says Saoudi. I had seen that film Summer of Sam with Adrien Brody on the telly, who also had a ridiculous nose, and began attempting to recreate his hairstyle. We (Fat White Family) were planning on starting tracking stuff this month. The site covers music, art, culture, fashion, poetry and movies from the 60s through today. Or did I think I was laying things away for a rainy day? I think not. To have such intricate writing these days, in an online essay, is so rare, because people get to the point so quickly and cut things down so sparsely, and the kind of writing I like to read best is pretty much the style you have. Words by Lias Saoudi. He is wearing a grey woollen rollneck, his hair tightly cropped, his face a little fuller than when I last saw him perform topless, cheeks drawn, lank black hair down to his shoulders. Nobody was the focal point, everybody was the frontperson. Their unsparing lyrics are often an expose of our best and worst qualities as a species, intermingled so closely that good and bad and right and wrong become hopelessly confused. ", In response to Talbot's comments about nearly driving to London to find Saoudi, the Fat White Family added, "If Joe wants to get in his car and drive to London to mete out some form of rough justice on account of my expressing my opinion about his group thats fine with me. I was kind of like, almost angry and bitter at it when it first kicked off, in a way. Saul was extremely controlling in lots of ways. And making a music video is like hanging them up on a meat hook in the public square, you dont want anything to do with that ever again. Lias Saoudi. ", Before ending his essay, Saoudi wrote, "I've got no interest in beefing with this group of individuals, only what their huge popularity represents where politics infringing on art is concerned. Photo by Alex White. Lias Kaci Saoudi is a writer, artist and musician, and the front man of genre-bending iconoclasts Fat White Family. With thanks to Adelle Stripe. To the four winds was scattered my collection. The Independent. We did a few demos earlier on in the year. If you dont like something, dont do it then.. 1. Were in Brixton, south London, longtime home of Fat White Family, to talk about Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure, a memoir of sorts by Saoudi and the journalist and novelist Adelle Stripe. The world wide web became quite popular around the same time. Its too late to start again now. PKM: Absolutely. Youre not from a middle class background. Then we all got Covid. But you dont have to be angry. All rights reserved. And Ill be tired of being around drugs and boozing and all that stuff, so I was thinking, if I slowly usher myself into that other realm, maybe Ill make it out alive. Dance music can be quite conservative, Liam continues. For news and discussion about South-Londons finest. Everyone was naked, fucking each other on a cocktail of drugs and it never stopped. Support tQ's work by becoming a subscriber and enjoy the benefits of bonus essays, podcasts and exclusively-commissioned new music. I bought my first guitar the next day. Im saying: this is what I believe in. Even Anish Kapoor makes an appearance. Its constantly shifting. I might as well be looking in the mirror., Before they formed Trashmouth a decade ago, the May brothers had carved out their own successful career in dance music as the duo Medicine 8. Lias choice of clothing in U Instead Of Thought might cross one boundary too many for some, however. But then, my mums from the north of England, a working class coal mining family. It shouldnt be like this, I tell myself, I should care more than I do. Typical of my big brother, hes so irresponsible in so many ways. I went with my brother and I remember him taking me to the front before they went on. Lias Saoudi performing with Fat White Family performs at South Facing festival, London, in August last year. To find out more, click here. He began jotting down memories and ideas, the first time since school hed written anything other than lyrics. Photograph: Joseph Okpako/WireImage. To a certain extent Ive had things that I want. It is a bruising, exhilarating read, which captures the nihilistic energy of this strange and brilliant band. You need all of your focus for that. Its awful when you get a public rinse down; I should have at least qualified my comments last year. Their second album, Songs for Our Mothers, was released in 2016 by the Without Consent label. Alas, I had by the age of 16 become a total loner, with nothing but a deeply entrenched sense of myself as culturally superior to keep me company. Listen to Snow Is Falling in Manhattan by Purple Mountains. Her mother would bring us 6 bottles of Miller beer and order us a pizza on a Friday night. One ready to go now, then another to follow quite quickly afterwards.. Fat White Family's next single, "Breaking Into Aldi", was released on 16 August 2016. It gets bandied around a lot, but that is next level Orwellian hideousness there. PKM: You cant learn that dynamic online. This was definitely the most fun Ive had making record, and hopefully weve engineered it so its kudos-proof. I had decided some time ago that I was on my way to London at the soonest possible occasion to study art. Their debut album, Decius Vol. The Absolute Mixture: Shit Art Positive by Matthew Bown. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); https://media.zencast.fm/better-known/219.mp3, Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure, https://literaryreview.co.uk/its-me-eddie, https://joannamoncrieff.com/2016/04/18/limits-to-medicine-re-visiting-ivan-illich/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbeJKaAKLos, https://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/aug/05/biography, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Feast_of_Snakes, https://trouserpress.com/reviews/armand-schaubroeck-steals/. The process of writing forced Saoudi to confront many of the conflicts and resentments he and his bandmates had avoided for years. It reminds me of Mark E Smiths freewheeling, deranged memoir, Renegade. Lias Saoudi: It was really good. As a wholly independent publication, we rely entirely on our ad bookings to keep The Quietus going. Theyre all very fragmented, but as it proceeds it starts to descend into darker, more autobiographical sketches. Why am I standing in front of a stage looking at some questionable hero? Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure by Adelle Stripe and Lias Saoudi. Whos to say what is and isnt personal to someone? And that might not have happened had not the pandemic thrown such a fright into everyone. He was waiting for the man., What did the band make of the book? In choosing to attack two groups at once . Whod have thought?, Anything with me in it. Itll be a heavy day., Decius are a supergroup made up of Paranoid London and Warmduscher members with Lias Saoudi as frontman. Whatever trick Bob had just pulled on me was a trick I had to learn, or at least try to. Whats happening now has really disturbing shades of authoritarianism. What about Keir Starmer? You have to give up on that yourself., 'Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure by Lias Saoudi and Adelle Stripe is out on Thursday 24 February, published by White Rabbit (20), Join thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their replies. [5], In early 2014, the band launched a PledgeMusic campaign to fund their show at the South by Southwest festival, with a subsequent US tour. Fat White Familys Lias Saoudi, Paranoid Londons Quinn Whalley, and Trashmouth Records Luke and Liam May discuss their sleazy, seedy new project Decius, In 2013 Lias Saoudi, who was then laying low in Berlin after the recording of his band Fat White Familys debut album Champagne Holocaust, went out to Berghain. Come To Me Villas initial non-descript launch was back in 2014 (at the beginning of last year it received a more publicized re-release as a full EP), with further one-off releases coming once a year in 2015, 2016 and 2017. 7 March 2008. Artist Jeremy Deller meets Jonny Banger, founder ofSports Banger: a rave/fashion/food bank/political activism collective whose latest clothing collection bears the label The People Deserve Beauty. A feast of snakes by Harry Crews https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Feast_of_Snakes, 6. Just looked like pure love, man. I noticed after I came to London that everybody in the big city starts shagging each other and doing drugs at age 13; no such joy in the soggy, racist backwater I grew up in. I wouldnt ever listen to Blur now but at the time there was a kind of melancholy about it. Lias Saoudi performing with Fat White Family performs at South Facing festival, London, in August last year. In recent years Ive noticed this awful feeling creeping over me every time I pick up my phone to select a track if theres folks round my flat. Anyone willing to sweat nuts and bolts on stage like that, regardless of the underlying message, deserves our respect, and for that I duly salute them. I became largely dependent on my comrades to do the archiving and deep diving, especially my songwriting partner Saul Adamczewski, whose inner record nerd only seems to expand with age. Any hardcore fans of the Fat White Family will be greatly relieved to know that the famously tempestuous band were not locked down together, an occurrence which would surely have resulted in injury, death, or nervous breakdowns. Lias Saoudi: I read aboutthere was some stuff in this country about there being like a tracing app, stuff like that, and people having to have like the right verification on their phone before they can go to a festival. Debaucherous UK band Fat White Family were in NYC over the weekend, playing Bowery Ballroom on Saturday night (10/18). Really, really good positive energy. Saoudi later tells me that, during the second or third lockdown, he cant remember which, he found himself in Ireland with another writer. Musician Lias Saoudi discusses with Ivan six things which should be better known. (LogOut/ Youre just, like, excavating your own life, he says. waver.One of the best parts of the book is Lias writing about his upbringing with brother Nathan as mixed-race kids in Huddersfield, Eire, Ulster and . The social solidarity. Macbeth followed it in November. Gallerist Sadie Coles sheds light on the motivations of art collectors in our Q&A. My parents had their own detatched bungalow in a fairly decent bit of town and two cars. And it really was more sporadic. Shirtless, his dark hair tousled after a brisk walk across town, he rolled cigarettes and sipped coffee whilst answering questions with a right good grace. Ill have a fag if Im out having a proper drink or if Im having a bit of a party, he says. I didnt have to consult with [bandmates] Saul [Adamczewski, lead guitarist] or Nathan [Saoudi, keyboard player and Lias brother], I didnt have to deal with hype. CORRECT. I think when you start out initially thats kind of a big part of it. I think doing this was really helpful and cathartic, says Saoudi. So I just did way too much Charlie. With Luke, Liam and Quinn playing behind him in custom-built black boxes, he strode out onto the catwalk stage in a gold suit, doing his best to impress the disgustingly beautiful people absolutely everywhere as he strutted, but when it came time to sing his first note, he instead vomited all over the stage and audience. Its basically his reading history: he picks 52 books Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, Svetlana Alexievichs The Unwomanly Face of War and goes through his personal relationship with each of them. Given Saoudis history of provocation with Fat White Family, it might be wondered whether hes purposely looking to cause trouble by dressing as a geisha. PKM: Lets talk about your prose writing a bit: Life Beyond the Neutral Zone, was wonderful to read, I had so much fun reading that. Lias Kaci Saoudi is on Facebook. Like, always siding with the IRA. So yes, one day I genuinely had to stop myself driving up to London and finding him [Lias Saoudi, Fat White Family] because I go through fits and pangs of, like: 'Fuck off, just leave us alone'. ", The Fat White Family vocalist also wrote that the band "represent everything that is wrong with contemporary cultural politics, with a left to whom the future used to belong, in defeat now collapsing into whimsical utopianism. Retrieved 7 May 2021. Lias thinks that Idles' lyrics and politics feel like feel-good corporate sloganeering that turns moral certitude into cultural capital without digging any deeper into material reality or the human condition, which isn't what good art does. I escaped and stood and watched it from the perimeter. Change). Its the I belong bit, there can be no half-measures. Lead singer of Fat White Family, Lias Saoudi, self-pens a Bakers Dozen of thirteen musical choices that map his early life to the present day, from Ireland to Scotland, Cambodia to Algeria, via dark country and the howling void. I havent learned how to do that during lockdown. Otherwise everything you write is like just absolute drivel. Its arguably the greatest suicide note in musical history listening to the lyrics, the conclusion you draw is inevitable, meaning he must have had that in mind, that he was on the way out. I did dabble a bit on the old Countdown, Saoudi laughs. But its got to the point where I feel a bit grossed out by a cigarette. Thats the first surprise. "On my radar: Lias Saoudi's cultural highlights". To many in 21 st century Britain, the days of overtly political music are over, but not for Lias and his co-songwriter Saul Adamczewski, who is an admirer of 1990s post-punk outfit The Make-Up for . As well as the unparalleled joy of keeping the publication alive, you'll receive benefits including exclusive editorial, podcasts, and specially-commissioned music by some of our favourite artists. In choosing to attack two groups at once I believed I was demonstrating a supreme . I dont feel like I learn anything about Joe Talbot by listening to Joe Talbot. Im a musician for Christs sake! PKM: He gets good lyrics out of that. What was that experience like? You cant get a bunch of people in a building together to celebrate music with a lot of alcohol and the rest of it and expect them to follow social distancing. I remember being asked if l liked the Sash?** by a group of lads at school around that time; I thought they were referring to Encore Une Fois by the French dance outfit Sash!, which had not long since been a huge hit. I went to one the other day and I thought that was the best possible way young people could come back together after something like that. Every now and then, video of a socially distanced club in Holland or Berlin comes, and its better that theres not such things as clubs anymore than doing that. The racial hatred I encountered in the backwaters wasnt pathological, it was that of the animal suddenly forced into sharing its cage with some new and terrifying creature. Nothing all that personal is ever laid on the table. But the process of writing Ten Thousand Apologies forced Saoudi, whom Stripe describes as a mix of Harold Steptoe, Oscar Wilde and Adrian Mole, to confront many of the conflicts and resentments he and his bandmates had avoided for years. 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