By downloading or embedding any image, you agree to the terms and conditions of the IWM Non Commercial Licence, including your use of the attribution statement specified by IWM. They can be purchased on a firearms license with the correct variation or deactivated to order with a full working action (cock, strip and dry fire). The latter were originally large rubber bullets, but these were superseded by cylindrical projectiles made from PVC, which were found to be more accurate at long range and less likely to inflict lasting injury. The fire plume and smoke trail made the line easy to find for the rescuing surf crews. Cowboy & Old Western History (LogOut/ This page is not available in other languages. http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30032636. 1 1/2 Flare pistol with proofed 12g adaptor used for firing bird scaring . Every musket, rifle, display machine gun, machine gun parts set or gun sold by IMA, Inc is engineered to be inoperable according to guidelines provided by the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF). Mechanism Top Lever. It was ironical to them, though the joke was lost on the English who had long stopped using the term crap//. tools, etc on our parts page Compact Distress Signal Order code: 9556660 The lightweight, Pains Wessex Compact Distress Signal pack contains 3 red aerial flare cartridges and a penjector firing mechanism, all enclosed in a tough, water-resistant case. From its inception circa 1878 to the early 20th century, the Lyle gun was an effective naval tool. Carried in a case along with its rope and launcher, this looked like a giant, mounted bottle rocket and unfortunately, utilized a cardboard-type paper case. SIGNAL KIGHTS MK 2 British 1917 Dated WWI Webley & Scott No2-MkI Flare/Signal Pistol. In fact, it worked so well that Schermulys grandson was often used in its firing demonstrations at only 8-years old. Please search through our online catalog today and find your own piece of military or maritime history. Catalogs His invention was usually ignored by the Admiralty, but by 1922 was used by 22 leading shipping lines. HE WAS THE FOUNDING FATHER MODERN ROCKETRY ! This is a rare schermuly flare gun / line throwing gun. The entire lot for only $95.00 (View Picture), 22157 RED FLARE PARACHUTE SIGNAL- KILGORE #52 - P52 PISTOL PROJECTED PARACHUTE RED FLARE DISTRESS SIGNAL APPROVED BY U.S. COAST GUARD 160.024/2/4, manufactured by the Kilgore Dorporation, Toone, TN, division of International Flare Signal . is ink stamped on the thin aluminum case of the flare signal The short aluminum cartridge case headstamp identifies the maker and patent info along with date of March 1989, and expiration date of September 1992 is ink stamped on side. The pistol is based on the Webley & Scott brass flare pistol, with a steel barrel extension to take a rocket that would propel a wire over distance. The penjector is fitted with a stainless-steel spring and striker pin. Advanced BL: 36.6cms Subcategory Flare . Lot includes the following WW1 Schermulys Trench Flare Pistol. In 1912, the Royal Mail Steam Packet utilized Schermuly rockets and others would follow. Despite being given a stiff ignoring by the Admiralty Please see our. Collectible U.S. Longarms (post 1898), Collectible Foreign Longarms (post 1898, Collectible Handguns (post 1898), collectible 12/7/2022, Accessories & Parts The fire plume and smoke trail made the line easy to find for the rescuing surf crews. This might sound a bit Heath Robinson but apparently, there were successes when used from ships. WW2 Type 90 Japanese Naval DOUBLE Barrelled Flare / Signal pistol. Digital files of films and sound recordings are available at cost depending on intended use. International Military Antiques, Inc observes all Federal, State and Local laws. here is another example, http://www.classic-firearms.co.uk/antique-classic-section-582-firearms.html. IMA considers all antique guns offered on our website as non-firing, inoperable and/or inert. Schermuly surmised that to remedy these short-comings, a lifeline could instead be fired from the vessel. 20069. After all, aiming for shore requires much less precision than aiming for a boat, and lines fired inland might even be aided by the wind and enjoy a greater range. If you don't have e-mail click All Images and Text Copyright 2003-2023 International Military Antiques Inc. All Rights Reserved. and make no claims as to fitness for use. ( Sn. Schermulys invention didnt just disappear with the glory days of the British Empire. fired a short blank cartridge which ejected the rocket, the rocket then ignited and propelled the line to the target ship, shore or person in distress. This Line Throwing gun is in EXCELLENT CONDITION, In fact the best condition I have ever seen one in, as most of these have been Used, and Abused for two world wars and then some. The new apparatus would utilize the quick-firing, weather-proof projectile less effected by wind, as well as the far-traveling, easy-to-see, virtually recoilless rocket that wouldnt snap the lifelines. In 1929, just 19 days before he died, the Admiralty made it compulsory for all vessels over 500 tons to carry line throwers. early serial #5305. 4/7/2023 R' Gebruder Rempt Suhl. We prefer you ask by e-mail so we will have time to pull items before answering, 4/7/2023, Collectors RIAC believes that this website is accessible to the widest possible audience pursuant to the guidelines of the Americans with Disability Act. Brass and steel barrel. Schermuly also developed a way to better lay the line inside the case (called flaking the line) so that it would feed more easily and reliably while taking up less space. But, the British Admiralty still didnt see a need for his line throwers. The fact that it remained in production through World War II is further testament to its reliability and necessity. sheet") to conduct the required federal "Brady" instant background check, and We assume no liability for accidents or injuries resulting from Theoretically, the approval number should allow dating these to within a five year period corresponding with the date of USCG approval under section section 160.040 covering life saving appliances. However, a gun also introduced recoil, a bad thing on the deck of a wet ship, and to achieve a distance equal to that of a rocket required a massive powder charge that often risked breaking the line. Finally, he came up with a design that was small, easily aimed and fired, accurate and simple to use the Schermuly Rocket Pistol Apparatus. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This is the blog archive from Think Defence, maintained here for reference purposes. The rocket has a U shaped wire frame attached to it, hinged to allow it to hang down below the gun before firing. D 1461 - D 1461 FFL holders often charge a small fee for handling these transfers, as well as To meet demand Schermuly brought his three grown sons into the business. See photo for details, including a small hole poked in the paper case- not a big deal, but we don't like to surprise people. Dates run from about 1952 to about 1964, various makers and marking styles. D 1460 - D Flare Pistol 26. I'd guess that it's someone's name, or a company's name, since it's capitalised, but I can't find anything via an Internet search about it. No lid. It had to be large enough to carry adequate propellant but not large enough to excessively increase the weight or be effected too much my wind. Please use the print button in the share bar at the top of the page. The design is based on the WWI Webley MKIII* brass flare pistols of the same period however, this pair have much longer barrel extensions measuring 6.5 inches with the overall barrel length being 9 inches. It is of brass, and steel construction with walnut grips. Note that while these were made after 1898, special provisions in federal law exempt them from the normal post-1898 handgun FFL procedures, and they can be ordered just like an antique firearm, without need for a FFL so we are listing them here: click This is an old English made Schermuly Line Throwing Gun. Upper photos show the gun for sale; lower photo shows a different gun with a rocket so you can see what they look like. This law exempts antique firearms from any form of gun control or special engineering. 4/7/2023, Handguns This product is not available for shipping in US state(s). This riot gun is one of several patterns which have seen service with the British Army, most notably during the 'Troubles' in Northern Ireland. The wire could be attached to a cable to help transfer people from ship to ship or shore to ship. Books on Breech end of the barrel has British Broad Arrow property marking ink stamped, so this was likely used by the Royal Navy or RNLI, probably circa WW2 to 1970s. This is a Schermuly type life saving line throwing gun which uses a small pistol type launcher firing a stubby impulse-ignition cartridge. Before firing, a rocket motor with an attached wire frame sticking back for attachment of the line is inserted in the muzzle. firearms are sold as collectors items only. Return 450ONO No more results - here are some we think you might like. Add to Cart. Some 96 different Flare or Signal pistols are covered, with dimensions and some historical background and information on maker and the intended use. Please feel free to email me. After all, aiming for shore requires much less precision than aiming for a boat, and lines fired inland might even be aided by the wind and enjoy a greater range. In fact, except for brief passage in obscure manuals, or discussion of a gun or two the scope of a more general work there is nothing conveniently available on this subject. to customers outside the United States. But how to achieve all this? However, a gun also introduced recoil, a bad thing on the deck of a wet ship, and to achieve a distance equal to that of a rocket required a massive powder charge that often risked breaking the line. Thankyou for the article. Alternatively, search more than 1 million objects from Original Items: Only one set available. Blog Dealer Search Wanted Guns . WW2 SCHERMULY ROCKET PISTOL APARATUS - LINE THROWING AND FLARE GUN BRITISH MILITARY ISSUED - EXTRAS Description: FOR THE COLLECTOR THAT HAS IT ALL ! Loaded, live round, but due to age and apparent poor storages sold as display item only and not safe for actual use. Does anyone know the situation in the rest of the world? Gvjschermuly@gmail.com thanks. These are non firearms under the current law, but a PALis required if cartridges are included. Use on websites that are primarily information-led, research-oriented and not behind a paywall. William Schermuly 1857-1929 was one of the fathers of modern rocketry. When fired, the impulse ignition cartridge flash ignites the rocket motor and kicks the rocket out on its way. This is unlikely to have been a Very pistol, given the location it was probably a moutain rescue flare gun (a far simpler device), but it definitely wasn't a simple hand-held flare. Webley Schermuly Riot Gun, launcher, grenade, moving barrel Label This riot gun is one of several patterns which have seen service with the British Army, most notably during the 'Troubles' in Northern Ireland. As life saving devices, with the bore obstructed by small projections to prevent firing of projectiles but not interfering with the launching of the line throwing rocket, the Kilgore GR-52 is not considered a firearm and no FFL is needed to purchase. 3/9/2023, Ammunition for Collectors Billlion (talk) 21:08, 6 July 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply], "Plastic Surgery of the Face" by Sir Harold Gillies, a work recording mostly the work of the author in facial reconstruction of WWI wounded, describes a case of a Verey Light injury to the face (an accident in this case). $55.00 (View Picture), 21248 U.S. 37mm FLARES- COLLECTOR LOT OF 16 FOR DISPLAY - These are fired examples with the correct end caps replaced, so they are INERT with no live primers or propelling charge or pyrotechnic materials, and perfectly safe. Be the first to know of our latest discoveries and exclusive offers. This example shows the less common fluid filled clinometer level. WEBLEY SCHERMULY MADE IN ENGLAND Lines were necessarily light to achieve maximum distance, and were often used to establish larger, sturdier lines. This rope could then be fired over the heads of distressed sailors in the water for rescue purposes, or fired at another ship, to attach bigger lines to be hauled back to the originating ship. William Schermuly was born in 1857 going to sea on HMS Warspite and a succession of other ships after. The wire could be attached to a cable to help transfer people from ship to ship or shore to ship. A line firing gun, as opposed to a rocket, would take care of many of his issues: it fired instantaneously and made aiming easier, its projectiles would be less effected by wind and less prone to water damage. Schermuly made them from the 1920s up WW2 1944 U. S. Navy Sedgley MK IV 37mm Flare/ Signal Pistol. (low melting point) And on one memorable occasion I came within a few steps of being brained by the metal sleeve for the rocket dropping out of the sky, Dont forget the early webley/schermuly riot guns too http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30032636, Occasionally the twecky household received stocks of shelf expired schermuly marine products to be (illegally, I am sure) disposed of on bonfire night. All 3/10/2023, US Militaria As to the rest, an iconic fire that destroys a major landmark in a Swiss town and has an enormously well-known song written about it - that's notability. This is an Swedish 38mm Flare/ Signal Pistol. We Also send me selected promotions from trusted 3rd parties. Make Kayaba Kogyo Com. It was only after the SS Rohilla sank after hitting a mine in 1914 that the British Admiralty placed their first order for Schermuly rockets to be placed aboard troop and hospital ships. British Schermuly Rocket Pistol Apparatus (SPRA) in very good condition. Also included is the tin case which measures approximately 19" x 7" x 25" which is complete with 4 unopened boxes of 250 1/2 inch line, 4 deactivated rockets, original instruction label and more! WW1 Imperial German Army Hebel 27mm Trench Flare/ Signal Pistol. This is a scarce, commercial proofed British No. This is a 37mm cartridge with the case about 1 1/8 long and overall length of 7 1/8. Not eligible for payment with Paypal or Amazon. Found in a warehouse on the Northeastern Seaboard of the United States where it has laid undisturbed for over 100 years! Creating a business account is free, and gives you access to an extended range of services and packages with better pricing. The serial number 10290 is matching on the barrel unit and the frame. The Schermuly Pistol Rocket Apparatus (SPRA) was born and immediately began outperforming the competition, often doubling or tripling the distance of other ship-to-shore systems and demonstrating numerous advantages of old shore-to-ship systems such as the Lyle gun. This is a pair of extremely rare WWI Schermuly flare pistols fitted with extra long barrel extensions. Sn:5636. Overall excellent condition. Webley Schermuly 12bore Single Shot Flare Pistol (R/H) - S/H (1) S/H Shetland Trade Seller 1 1/2 Flare pistol with proofed 12g adaptor used for firing bird scaring cartridges. However, no complete list has been found of all approvals, so with only a few scattered examples the best I can do is estimate that this was circa 1960s-1980s, but I believe the basic model dates to 1952. *********Please note serial number 910 has now sold *************. Model Rocket flare fir. This item was for sale as of 02:53, 28 Dec 22. Your last viewed and saved ads will appear here, Your last viewed and saved searches will appear here, Please select a location from the drop-down list. Schermuly made them from the 1920s up . Lines were necessarily light to achieve maximum distance, and were often used to establish larger, sturdier lines. This is a scarce, commercial proofed British No. This would probably clean up with some steel wool and WD-40. The barrel and lock are not rusted or pitted, but do have dried oil and crud and staining mixed with a dull steel gray. For details on how we use your data, please see our, 2023 gunstar.co.uk - all rights reserved - a member of the Friday-Ad network|, I would like to receive the newsletter for savings opportunities and suggestions, Sign me up to the gunstar.co.uk newsletter, Send me offers and promotions from third parties. You can unsubscribe at any time. Brass Frame from British flare pistol, and steel Barrel. During the Great War, the Canadian Army even began using them to throw telephone lines from trench to trench to avoid exposing troops to enemy fire. In 1912, the Royal Mail Steam Packet utilized Schermuly rockets and others would follow. firing or any other use of any firearm we sell. His lifes work complete, he saved thousands of lives at sea, contributed to the seafaring life he loved so dearly, and fought successfully for new legislation to save even more lives. If you do not have a C&R FFL, then we can only ship guns made after 1898 to Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Fun bit of kit, best not to fire them when wearing synthetic gloves though, as I discovered the hard way! See photo for details. These would include the No. So he did what anyone would do took the best of both inventions and combined them. You can embed or download low-resolution images free of charge for private and non-commercial use under the IWM Non-Commercial Licence. It was reborn many times with the demands of the Second World War. William Schermuly's previous line throwing inventions were pretty bulky and he wanted to perfect a device which a child could use. particular Line gun. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. 21712 FLARE GUNS & SIGNAL PISTOLS: THEIR USE, DESCRIPTION AND ACCESSORIES - By Robert M. Gaynor, 178 pages 8.5 x 11 soft covers. Obviously there was room for improvement, and that was not lost upon William Schermuly a former seaman who was later quite involved in the pioneering of modern rocketry. I made the following changes: When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs. Menu. Lodged in mud, sand, or rock, especially during a violent storm, is a poor place to be, and ships could be broken up quickly. The unsanded stock has a mellow old oiled patina, but there is a missing chip on the left side along the barrel channel. The device would have to be inexpensive, reliable, compact, and easy to use even in the worst of conditions. The rocket is inserted into the barrel, and a impulse-ignition cartridge is inserted into the breech of the gun. This is a 37mm cartridge with the case about 1 1/8 long and overall length of 7 1/8. For details on how we use your data, please see our, 2023 gunstar.co.uk - all rights reserved - a member of the Friday-Ad network|, I would like to receive the newsletter for savings opportunities and suggestions. Left flat has an illegible oval cartouche of some sort. After leaving the sea in 1880, he of course had a soft spot for the men who still earned their living there and often risked their lives. Despite achieving some success with the apparatus Schermuly wanted further improvements, especially in the ease of use department. The leading option was a short cannon of sorts, known as the Lyle Gun, which fired a 19-pound tethered projectile that sat on the muzzle. CARTRIDGE, 1 in. Usually comprised entirely of volunteers, the crews, while brave, often lacked training or expertise with equipment such as the Lyle gun. Military Manuals There were numerous signal flares, various uses for projected lines, and perhaps most pleasing to the inventor, several ways to aid seamen in peril on the sea, such as lifeboat distress signals and self-inflating life rafts that automatically fired rocket propelled lines into the water so that the crew could pull themselves aboard. This product is not available for international shipping. William Schermuly still envisioned a simpler device that eliminated faults in his design, which was not very durable, prone to cross winds, and took 5-10 seconds to ignite. The lifeboat maroon was particularly impressive. Technically this is not a firearm and no FFL is needed. Twenty-two different shipping lines were using his rockets, and by 1929, the Merchant Shipping Act mandated that Every British ship exceeding five hundred tons when going to sea from any port in the United Kingdom shall be provided with a line-throwing appliance approved by the Board of Trade. Nineteen days later, Schermuly died. His lifes work complete, he saved thousands of lives at sea, contributed to the seafaring life he loved so dearly, and fought successfully for new legislation to save even more lives. The flare gun launcher fit the bill. He invented several different line throwing devices, some of which were used in WWI for such things as throwing telephone lines from trench to trench while under fire. C-96 Line throwing guns are still used to this day in the commercial and military sectors, and the Schermuly name remains closely tied to parachute flares. are glad to answer any questions about the items we offer. To improve his rocket powered line thrower, many issues that plagued early rocketry students arose. Nick Cooper (talk) 12:47, 3 May 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], I'm coming across this rather late, butthe reference to "flare gun" may quite possibly be a matter of the writer of the lyrics of "Smoke on the Water" taking creative liberties in describing the event, rather than referring to the actual sequence of events. He also covers 11 British or Canadian designs, 9 French, 17 German, 4 Italian, 3 Japanese, 6 Russian/Eastern European designs, and 9 from other countries. Made in a pistol form, it was a smaller, lighter, simpler form of a line thrower allowing them to be used more widely and practically. A great, colorful addition to a collection of the U.S. flare pistols taking the 37mm cartridges, mainly used for signaling from aircraft, especially with the AN-M8 flare pistols. Condition Report. Basement For questions or accessibility help - please call (908) 903-1200. Note that while these were made after 1898, special provisions in federal law exempt them from the normal post-1898 handgun FFL procedures, and they can be ordered just like an antique firearm, without need for a FFL so we are listing them here: **NEW ADDITION** 7104 BRITISH SCHERMULY ROCKET PISTOL APPARATUS (SRPA) LINE THROWING GUN - Serial number 20148 made circa 1940-1960. Gebr.R\' Gebruder Rempt Suhl. The device would have to be inexpensive, reliable, compact, and easy to use even in the worst of conditions. I always thought it was just one of those foreign words the British Army had picked up on its travels, until I I saw a Schermuly branded rocket in a museum. 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