for 356 ft/lbs. Previous Post Next Post I've been experimenting with a Bladetech 5.11 retention holster for our T&E (Testing and Evaluation) Gen4 Glock 19. The width dimensions shown on the Glock website are misleading and confusing. Theres an exception for LEO sales, of course. The width of the slide is 1.12". I think Masterpiece Arms is coming out with a MAC-11 clone in 5.7 for $500. I must not be holding the thing right. The Glock 29 weighs. We might argue that the quick shot & miss can make the BG not shoot accurately, but where the heck is that miss going? I can own a 4th gen glock but really cant WTH. What oh what could it be? Id go with the .45, but thats because I like .45 better. Having both the G30 and G19, I can tell you without any hesitation that I can hit more accurately with greater speed with the G19. Follow him on Facebook,Twitter, YouTube, & Instagram. Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). get the most out of your GLOCK pistol. I completely agree. Simply if you want to play in the Big Leagues you cant practice T-ball. . G19V.3 Gray, G19FS.4, G19.4 Full Fde, G21.4 Gray, G22 (Gills).3, G43, Gray, G42, Black, CZ 75D PCR. This response is in no way meant to offend, nor is it a judgement of ones skill, but. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. The regs are consumer protection regulations. Not sued. A .38 caliber isnt a decisive fight stopper, and often requires multiple center mass hits to affect the attacker. The Gen4 G19 has a 4.02" barrel, an overall length of 7.28", a width at the frame of 1.26", and a height of 5.04" (including magazine). Something to think about. When I told Eddie at AFS that I was carrying the Mass-compliant 10-round 9mm G19 in the new holster, he freaked me right the f out. I dont want to drop another 550 on a 40 cal piece Plus, the 9mm ammo is priced to shoot. Springfield Armory Xdm Elite Pistol 9Mm Osp 4.5" Beretta Apx Carry A1 9Mm Optics Ready Jaxn920A1. The video shows that the .45 was waaaaay more flippy than the nine, and yet your accuracy was the same. After perhaps tens of thousands of injuries and deaths, of soldiers with fouled, non-functioning weapons, did anyone see the light and correct those problems. Carrying 10 rounds of 9mm is suicidal? The two pistols both have an overall length of 6.88 inches with a barrel length of 3.77 inches. G19 can be whatever Gen you prefer. Not .45 nor 9mm O:(. My wife is always telling me to be more considerate, so this is where I start. When the magazine is inserted they are equal grip length. Granted, I like the .45 Auto better than the 9mm but when it comes to my own abilities theres no getting around The Way Things Are. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. One can argue the best Glocks in all their offerings are their 9mm pistols for their excellent ammo capacity. Though they are all semi-automatic pistols, share a number of features (like their "Safe Action" safety system), and parts are interchangeable between certain Glock models, there is sometimes a significant difference between Glock pistols. Haha this is great! Remembering that the Bay State restricts me to 10-round magazines (anything more instantly makes me a dangerous criminal), so I cant use/carry/think about the G19s 15-round mag. The right choice is in your hands. The retired TX DPS officer in my Sunday School class was asked one time what the value was in having a the 3rd through nth shot. It is compact, easily controlled at rapid fire, fits easily into my hand, and I have confidence in my skills, so that I know I will stop any attack that comes my way. I don't see much of a difference in terms of concealability. The G30 is also in a category of its own by being the most unique Glock; it is like a hybrid of a baby Glock and medium sized (G19/ 23), while it is definatley a medium size, with a tad more gurth, but has a baby Glock grip design. As I must shoot one handed they, for me, are the perfect carry piece. It may be a situational call but if the objective is to stop the BG as soon as possible, then taking the extra 0.5 second to get it round on target seems like a wise thing to me. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. I ran a MA-compliant mag through both Glocks at five yards as fast as I possibly could, sight picture be damned. If you can shoot both of them equally well under stress, then carry the 45. The Sig p238, and the Colt Govt. Same size as the 30SF. I was told at great length why my LCR was worthless, my .38 Spl +P would all but bounce off the crack heat I might use them against, and how real men use a .45 ACP. They include: The Glock 19 uses the 9 mm round while the Glock 23 uses a .40 caliber round. How do these two handguns stack up against eachother? Subcompact models are even smaller and are designed specifically for concealed carry. The only valid test is combat; the only valid result is victory. Ardak Kumerian, Admiral Commanding Red Fleet Mostly thanks to the durability and reliability of these striker-fired pistols. Youre gonna use the 19 and youre gonna get yourself killed. First, I was startled to hear that its only a matter of time before I use my gun to defend my life. I think the careless design and introduction of the m-16 in Vietnam is a testament to how America introduces products (its flawed/ not ready for use, but I can influence someone to push my idea through). We dont leave our fallen or injured behind, many of our enemies do even today. I suppose I'm thinking "better to shoot pairs and conserve ammo slightly." . Until the bad guy is out of the fight, EVERY shot counts. If operated within design parameters, it works well. A little .380! Mk 23 Mod 0 (H & K) (.45 ACP) USSOCOM Cheaper ammo = more practice time. The U.S. Military was looking for a replacement cartridge and through prior experience and testing on cadavers and animal remains in the Chicago stockyards, resulting in a finding that the .45 was the most effective pistol caliber. Granted the m-16 family of rifles have undergone reliability overhauls year after year since its introduction (as well as a day late and a dollar short), but this one example doesnt leave me very trusting to why things are introduced within the U.S. Anyways, the 9mm works and works well as I am sure it has had the necessary testing. Who knew wed micro-analyze the video. If I could only keep one it would be the 30. It also takes 9x19mm cartridges, but is only 174 mm (6.85 in) long, with a barrel length of 102 mm (4.01 in). The M-16 was / is a better than fairly decent rifle, but was never designed to be shot dirty. The G30 on the other hand has almost no difference in felt recoil when comparing it to the G21. A 45 Long Colt derringer in a small ziplock is my beach gun. If you think .38 ammo is not effective, look up the picture of Lee Oswald as he gets hit in the side(.38) point blank range. Im right there with you on that one. Of course, my back-up mags are only 10. How do these two handguns stack up against eachother? It is similar in size to the Glock 19 and the Sig P320 but has a lot more punch than the 9mm.. BARREL LENGTH: 96 mm/3.77 in. Now glock has a 380 called 42 and I held it and loved it. Ive always loved 45s and the recoil isnt near as bad as some people make it out to be. I alternate between the 2 for ccw carry as they are both based on the same frame design. You Asked For IT (YAFI) and FINALLY, here is the comparison of the Glock 30 Gen 4 (GEN4) versus the Glock 36 (basically a Gen 3 or GEN3). Which is still only ten rounds in Massachusetts. Ive been experimenting with a Bladetech 5.11 retention holster for our T&E (Testing and Evaluation) Gen4 Glock 19. Big fat slow moving bullet rules. The .45ACP was to provide a more modern cartridge that would stop a man, literally in his tracks, at a time when suicidal attackers proved that with determination, focus, and a few seconds, they were highly effective at killing officers, often in broad daylight. Love my 30S and dead accurate with no failures. less than the 30 which is not a big deal to me. Its a real crapshoot. I never would have expected that. What is difficult for one may be comfortable and appropriate for another. @Zealot I live in mass and these laws are dangerous because most people cant figure them out. I was lucky enough to find a pre-ban 13 rounder for my G23 that didnt cost an arm and a leg. Im amazed that anyone can miss at five yards, even at rapid fire. Glock 19 vs. Glock 23: Specifications. It makes my father a little nervous. This has no bearing on your test, just on the 'splits' issue. The Glock 19 comes with two 15-round stock mags while the Glock 23 comes with two 13-round stock mags. Psa 5.7 Rock Pistol Optics Ready W/ Threaded Psa Dagger Compact 9Mm Pistol With Extreme Carry Rock Island 1911 Tactical 9Mm 5" 8Rd Pistol. Drag/drop and reorder the handguns to compare on top of eachother, New handguns and the best gun and ammo deals straight to your inbox, Striker-Fired Compact Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger, Striker-Fired Subcompact Pistol Chambered in 45 ACP. But if theres a new high capacity mag in there, well, Welcome to Massachusetts. If you properly train and place your shots where they need to go (the A zone, upper chest or center of head), the only person getting killed is the assailant. Drag/drop and reorder the handguns to compare on top of eachother, New handguns and the best gun and ammo deals straight to your inbox, DA/SA Full-Sized Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger, 40 S&W, Striker-Fired Compact Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger. pistol. As with all my Gen3's, adding a set of Talon Grips & a Vickers Mag Release improves the ergos to a level approaching that of the Gen4's. The Glock 17 and the Glock 19 are very nearly identical, with the Glock 17 having a barrel about 1/2 inch longer and a grip about 1/2 inch longer than the Glock 19. When it comes to the MA nonres permit, it seems that if the applicant has a permit in his home state and the homes states requirements meet or exceed the MA requirements, then MA will issue a nonres permit. Requests were made to develop a cartridge in .45 caliber. But the one thing that keeps me from getting (another) 30/30S is the grip, it still feels fat to me. with an empty magazine. and travels at approx. Glock G19 Gen4 vs Glock G30 SF size comparison | Handgun Hero Glock G19 Gen4 vs Glock G30 SF Glock G19 Gen4 Striker-Fired Compact Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger Check Price vs Glock G30 SF Striker-Fired Subcompact Pistol Chambered in 45 ACP Check Price Dimensions Details Capacity Dimensions Customary Metric Want to sell a firearm? I have no issues whatsoever with the decision. It has a capacity of 13+1. satisfying. My duty weapon is a 40, split between stopping power (45) and firepower (9mm). The Glock 19 9mm pistol is one of the most popular concealed carry pistols available. There are plenty of small guns chamber in .45ACP that are the same size as 9mm guns. Glock G19 Gen4 vs Glock G30 Gen4 size comparison | Handgun Hero Glock G19 Gen4 vs Glock G30 Gen4 Glock G19 Gen4 Striker-Fired Compact Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger Check Price vs Glock G30 Gen4 Striker-Fired Subcompact Pistol Chambered in 45 ACP Check Price Dimensions Details Capacity Dimensions Customary Metric Want to sell a firearm? I havent shot a .45 in almost 25 years but when the USMC switched to 9mm I was much pleased by the improved accuracy. How do these two handguns stack up against eachother? Psa 5.7 Rock Pistol Optics Ready W/ Threaded Psa Dagger Compact 9Mm Pistol With Extreme Carry Rock Island 1911 Tactical 9Mm 5" 8Rd Pistol. , LLC ( d/b/a Carbon Media Group ), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921 Bingham. E ( Testing and Evaluation ) Gen4 Glock 19 uses the 9 round! The one thing that keeps me from getting ( another ) 30/30S is the former publisher of slide. 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