The only way I can think of that the expander would rub, before the bushing has touched the neck, would be the neck wall is so thick it can't expand enough to make the hole in the neck as big as the diameter of the bullet when fired. This little cartridge can launch 40-grainers at over 3900 fps, and 32-grainers even faster. Whether youre a hunter or a competition shooter Whidden Gunworks can manufacture Custom dies to your exact specifications and if needed can work with your gunsmith to ensure your dies are as accurate as your new rifle. Material: 416R Stainless Steel Caliber: .20 Practical Barrel Length: 24" Rifle Length Gas Port 11-degree Target Crown M4 Feed Ramps 1 in 12" Rate of Twist Fluted Barrel Manufacturer: Midwest Gun Works PRODUCT SPECIFICATIONS: Barrel Length: 24" Brand: MGW Caliber: .20 Practical Finish / Color: Stainless Steel Firearm Type: Rifle Material: Steel If you have questions or need help with ordering feel free to email us at: CustomDies@whiddengunworks.com. The past few years you have seen the introduction of many new sets like the National Match, Master Hunter and the Premiums as a result of changing trends in the category and stated desires of the customer base. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Unless the neck is too tight or brass is too thick. Just trying to understand what you meant. You can start with .223 Rem brass, and just size down the necks with a neck-bushing die. In our experience, nearly all factory bullets benefit from sorting. The Redding form-and-trim die is on the left, with a new micrometer adjustable seating stem for the bullet seating die. The Official Predator Masters Search Engine, http://www.sinclairintl.com/reloading-eqsku=749-002-388, http://www.sinclairintl.com/reloading-eqsku=749-002-155. Check out the Load Map below and you'll see that the diminutive VarTarg pushes the 32gr pills up into the 3750+ fps range with much less powder than is used by the .204 Ruger or 20 BR. 20 BR, 20 PPC, .204 Ruger, Tactical 20, 20 VarTarg, Dean's Savage Load: "Love the cartridge.". $205.99. Click Here to download a .pdf version of Todd Kindler's 20 VarTarg article (from Dakota Arms).No special dies are need to form 20 VarTarg brass. And the 20 Practical matches the performance of the highly-publicized 20 Tactical with less money invested and no need to buy forming dies or fire-form cases. Currently, Cooper Arms of Montana and Dakota Arms offer factory rifles in 20 VarTarg. I know Bullberry makes a two ended die to go from 221 FB to 17 FB, does anyone know if they make one for 223 to 20 practical. Without their load data, wise advice, and invaluable assistance, this page could not have been created. These are available in Flat-Base, Short Boat-tail, and Full Boat-tail designs in weights ranging from 30 to 50 grains. What dies and process are you using for making .20 Practical? The 20 Practical is an ideal 20-caliber solution for AR15 platforms. You can easily make 20 practical dies out of .204 Ruger dies by grinding or turning about .100 off the Base of the dies. I went out yesterday and worked from 26.5-27.5, 26.5 was about 3700, 27 was about 3830 and 27.5 was about 3925. Lead time for Custom dies is currently averaging 10 weeks from thethe 1st of the following month in which your order was placed and your brass or reamer print was received by us. Most 20 VarTarg shooters are satisfied with the quality (and price), so long as the Rem brass is weight-sorted and prepped before loading. The 20 Practical is an ideal 20-caliber solution for AR15 platforms. I have some 32g Nosler HP and some WC844. At the same time, it appears some rise above the norm. Anybody know the part number for the correct 20 cal decaping assembly? You are using an out of date browser. We have found the best method to make Custom dies is to use your firedbrass from the rifles chamber. may be contacted via his website www.6mmAR.com. #2666026 - 04/01/14 08:14 AM Re: Forming 20 practical with RCBS Dies/equipment [ Re: dogduster204 ] You have to use the bushing die so you can neck down to 20 cal.It takes more than one step so you need to change size of bushing and your regular 223 die cant do that. The adjustable decapping rod allows positioning the bushing to resize only a portion of the neck length if desired. Are they pretty close? While most of these bullets are designed for varminting, many target shooters are using the 40-50 grain bullets with considerable success. You have to use the bushing die so you can neck down to 20 cal.It takes more than one step so you need to change size of bushing and your regular 223 die cant do that. 2023 Whidden Gunworks All Rights Reserved, Click Adjustable Sizer & Micrometer Seater Set. What others may consider Wildcat is the norm for us. At $20 per bushing, I should have measured first and bought second. After the .228 bushing it still measures .200 ID. I've always thought that the 20 VarTarg would make a very accurate benchrest round with good brass. I have .225, .228 and .233 bushings. John (SnakeEye) of VarmintsForFun.com hopes Lapua does produce 20 VarTarg brass: "That will open up a whole new world in the little 20s. 5.1 using manufacturer's published ballistic coefficients. The .20 Practical project is now in the ammo production phase. The amount of resizing provided by conventional reloading dies has always been dictated by the manufacturing tolerances (SAAMI specifications) of the brass cartridge case itself. We call this 20-223 wildcat the "20 Practical" because it uses standard .223 Rem brass (available everywhere) and because it is easy to load and shoot (hence "practical"). What started as a small dream has become a multi-million dollar international business Like the 6PPC, it has the optimal bore to case capacity ratio for max efficiency. So with the 20 Practical you do less work, you shell out a lot less money, yet you give up nothing in performance. The regular form and trim die 83660 will not help. Since wind drift is a function of ballistic coefficient and time of flight, such cartridges as the .20 Tactical tend to shoot flatter, with less wind drift and do it quieter and at lower cost than comparable .22-caliber cartridges. Uses interchangeable sizing bushings available in .001" increments. To be fair, in my experience, some of the .22-caliber cartridges provide more explosive hits on such targets as prairie dogs, but to that we must put the question: Are there degrees of dead? We understand early in a rifle build fired brass may not be available. Upon completion your brass will be returned to you with your Custom Die. The particulars were the Hornady 32-grain V-MAX bullet and H-322 powder. The Tactical 20 is easy to load and exceptionally accurate. The adjustable decapping rod allows you to adjust the bushing position, sizing only part of the neck length when desire d . In those circumstances we can use your reamer print but please note the fired brass will usually yield the best results. The Type S Elite set is comprised of a Type S Bushing Full Die, A Type S Bushing Neck Die and the unparalleled Redding Competition Seating Die. I ordered an 18" light contour 20 Practical barrel from Mcowen. With the factory brass, Tac 20 shooters won't need their form dies anymore, and, in all likelihood, a separate fire-forming process will become superfluous. I shoot a .20 tactical with 22 inch barrel and it has a rifle length gas tube and 10 twist shooting 39g sierras. Although the Tactical 20 has about three grains less case capacity than the .204 Ruger, it delivers very similar performance. This is my first wild cat so I wanted to ask a few questions before I get started. Bushings are available in hardened steel but also are available with a TIN (Titanium Nitride) coating for even greater lubricity. The white oak barrels are all heavy contour as well, not sure what contour youre after. I've been getting 1-1/2 to 2 thousandths with my .225 bushing that I use for my two 20 Practical bolt guns. To reach those numbers with a .22-caliber bullet, one must exceed 60 grains in weight. This means you can expect more velocity from a Berger 40gr LTB than the Hornady 40gr V-MAX or the Sierra 39gr BlitzKing.Choosing the correct bullet weight will depend on the environmental condition and the size of prey. A chamber type bullet seater positively controls both bullet and cartridge case alignment. To shoot the Berger 50s, Berger recommends a 9-twist. I've been thinking about having a 20 practical made. I also feel the expander touching going in on my .228 bushing. Ramshot TAC, for which I had great expectations, didnt hold up as well in extended testing but did produce the smallest group, with the Sierra 39-grain BlitzKings and the largest, which may have been a case of shooter error. Redding had .20 Tactical dies in stock along with a form-and-trim die for making cases from .223 Remington brass. The latter came in handy for setting exact overall cartridge length for the various bullets used. For heavier ones, a one-in-9-inch twist is recommended, especially at longer ranges. Actually I tried several techniques: simply running sized .223 Remington cases into the .20 Tactical sizing die; first using the form-and-trim die then the .20 Tactical sizing die; and what Sharpless called the Redding way, using the .20 Tactical bullet seating die as an intermediate step between the .223 Remington sizer and the .20 Tactical sizer. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Of the lot, I have to admit having developed a particular fondness for one of them: the .20 Tactical. The expander ball is smaller than the bullet. Upon return, we bead blast, hand polish, inspect and process for shipping so please ensure you factor in the turnaround time when ordering. Any help here or suggestions? Sufficient for my needs. Can I use my set of 223 headspace go / no-go gauges to set or is there a special set for the practical? I also wondered if my big bag of Winchester brass I had dug out off the bin and sized annealed was the culprit, or if I had sized all that Win brass with the bigger bushing I have that didn't give me enough neck tension and didn't shoot well. I wasn't sure what brass I would use when I bought the barrel. This cartridge is based on the 221 Fireball case and is probably the most efficient of the 20-Caliber cartridges. $26.45. It is also extremely accurate. Practical it is. The 20 Practical is great option for folks who favor "fast and light" smaller, lower-mass bullets traveling at very high velocities. Our Custom dies will solve problems such as sticky extraction and the dreaded Bolt click without over working your brass. I think it's part number 14206. This rifle has less than 125 rds through it. As formed, the brass chambered and the bolt closed without issue. The decapping rod is supplied with a standard size button. The one used here is a Cooper Firearms Model 21, a single-shot bolt action. And this may be a dumb question but if I have to go the Redding route, with that die fit/function in a RCBS press? Support Our SPONSORS Optimizing the AR15 as a Varmint Rifle I haven't seen anyone that has a procedure with RCBS equipment. I have 2 20 practical setups 1 at 26" 1 at 20". How much speed you getting from your tactical? I have read all sorts of things. Anybody know the part number for the correct 20 cal decaping assembly? Here is a five shot with brass ran through the die again, and a 5 shot with brass out of the bag @ 27.5g of WC844 with the 32g Noslers, out of my 18" barrel. The rifle is very well made, and the stock is the most beautiful Ive ever seen on a factory rifle. He used, as best as I can determine, IMI cases that he rated very highly. Copyright 2011- I like to run rifle length on 18" 223s. $375.99. This style of bullet seater works more accurately than a conventional (7/8"-14) bullet seating die. This die worked perfectly to form 20Tac brass from .223. See page 13 for additional information on crimp dies. The cartridge uses a standard .223 Remington shellholder. All Type-S dies use an interchangeable bushing to control neck diameter and tension to an increment of 0.001. The full length (FL) resizing die contains a decapping rod assembly with a neck expander (size button). Also this will be perfect for the 17 m 4 as all you would need to do is run it in a 17 m 4 FL die, no other forming. One tip - trim after forming, not before, since the first pass in the die actually shortens the brass a little when the shoulder gets pushed back to the 30 degree angle. Woa is a very good source for the 20 Practical. While researching on how to make the brass, it seems everyone talks about using a Redding 223 FL die set with bushings and a 204 decapping rod assembly. Senior Member : Join Date: Jan 2011. Worked perfectly. This reduces the neck diameter slightly. You can start with .223 Rem brass, and just size down the necks with a neck-bushing die. Any help here or suggestions? selling ammunition, reloading supplies and accessories. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. yes they will fit. Part of what makes this interesting is that Kindler, in writing on the subject, found using the form-and-trim die to work best, noting that when he used the .20 Tactical seating die method he experienced those same wrinkles behind the shoulder. The middle two are 20 Tactical (39gr TNT and 40gr V-Max), 223 on the right. All my Brass is LC. I have formed over 1000 pcs of 20 practical brass. Click Here to VIEW Ballistics Tables. Simply run a .221 Fireball case through a 20 VarTarg full-length sizer die--then load, and shoot. Then run the brass through a Tactical 20 forming die, and finally run it through a Tactical 20 full-length die. The Hornady V-MAX bullets and the Sierra BlitzKing tend to be equally explosive and both fragment very well. A Cooper Model 21 was used to develop .20 Tactical loads. forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/20-practical-dies-headspacing-question.4052414/, Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 14_6 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/14.1.1 Mobile/15E148 Safari/604.1. A 12-twist will stablize most bullets up to 40 grains. yes they will fit. I think it's part number 14206. The .20 Practical is just that, probably the best mid range, hi-volume, rodent killer cartridge ever. Was this page helpful? It is the .223 Remington case necked down to .20 caliber with the neck lengthened slightly, the shoulder set back and sharpened to 30 degrees and the body slightly blown out. Some precision shooters like to start with Lapua brass. Barrel Blanks. We support some of the world's best competition cartridges and work to provide you with the info you need to use them in your next competition. Posts: 781 A search here could bring up lots of good data, no expert but I'll give you my 2 cents. We can use a reamer print to produce the dies however, if the dies are manufactured and are not compatible with your rifles chamber, Whidden Gunworks will not be responsible for replacement dies or refund. I have a RCBS 223 FL die set for my RCBS press. What started as a small dream has become a multi-million dollar international business This time, accompanying my rifle when it arrived was a laminated target with an elongated hole in it denoting a three-shot group at 100 yards measuring .156 inch. Be the first to receive our best deals, latest products, promos & more. The case and bullet are completely captured by the die prior to the bullet being pushed straight into the case by a close-fitting seating stem. First the cases are sized in a full-length .223 die, then run, slightly lubricated, into the .20 Tactical seating die. We can custom match your dies for Factory Rifles as well as Custom Rifles including auto loading rifles. . I have about 5k of it sitting around from the 80's. While researching on how to make the brass, it seems everyone talks about using a Redding 223 FL die set with bushings and a 204 decapping rod assembly. the expander is dragging on the way out. So, if youve a mind to, try the Redding approach, and if dissatisfied, the form-and-trim die is always available. As expected for Redding dies, this one is of high quality and did the job without issue. REDDING 20 TACTICAL BUSH. What's not to like? Case lubrication/wax should be used very sparingly just on the neck and the body. Which Bullet Should I Use?When selecting bullets, the general rule of thumb is "let the rifle decide what bullet it likes". That is saying a lot. Both have 1/10 twist. The following tables provide external ballistics information (bullet drop and bullet drift) out to 500 yards with a range of useful velocities for the popular 20 CAL Hornady, and Berger bullets. Some versions have slightly less body taper as well--it's wise to compare reamer prints. "WARNING: For your own safety, ALWAYS reduce all starting charges by 10% and work up carefully! I shoot ground rats & I find myself leaving the bolt setups in the safe more often than not & the AR's going almost every time. Typical Redding quality. Access from your Country was disabled by the administrator. Other than a custom die set or a 223 bushing die, how would you form and resize for a 20 Practical? There seemed to be a pattern emerging. No trimming is necessary if the cases were the proper length before starting. Lighter bullets shoot flatter and faster thus giving you longer range, however, they tend to drift more with wind than the heavier bullets. So that is the right decapping part #? Todd Kindler reports great accuracy with N120 and the Sierra 32-grainer, running close to 3800 fps. And this may be a dumb question but if I have to go the Redding route, with that die fit/function in a RCBS press? . Picture Information. This form die #1, 90660, is the one you need to form 20TAC from 223 Rem. Both have rifle length gas systems if I am at the bench I like the 26 much better if I am in the RZR I like the 20". I haven't seen anyone that has a procedure with RCBS equipment. Custom dies are best made using three pieces of fired brass from your rifles chamber. 20 VARTARGThe 20 VarTarg (VARmint/TARGet) is another 20-Caliber cartridge designed by Todd Kindler for varmint hunting. The .20 Tactical was developed in 1998 by Todd Kindler, proprietor of The Woodchuck Den, Inc., a retail/mail-order establishment specializing in products for the small bores. Support Our SPONSORS Yes, Warren tells us, it does get sunny now and then in Vancouver, WA. I mostly use my Hornady L-n-L progressive press and has given me groups that satisfy my needs (at this time). (The dimensions through transition are listed in Table I.). NECK DIE SET COMPETITION, REDDING 20 TACTICAL TYPE S FULL BUSHING DIE, REDDING 20 TACTICAL TYPE S NECK BUSHING DIE, REDDING 20 TACTICAL TYPE S NECK BUSHING DIE SET, REDDING 20 TAC TYPE-S ELITE BUSHING 3-DIE SET, WILSON 17/20 TACTICAL BUSHING NECK DIE *S/O, Red Dot, Holographic, Magnifiers & Laser Sights, Angle Degree Indicators & Reticle Levelers. With the 20 Practical you need a 223 S die with . Brownell's has a .20 Hornady seater die, in stock, for $29.99 - look for Hornady dies/die sets for any/all .20 calibers. We suggest you try both and use the brand that shoots better in your rifle. You may also find that some brands may shoot very well, but only if you sort the bullets by weight or base to ogive length first. NEW 7/8-20 UNEF Tap & 7/8-20 UNEF Die Right Hand HSS High Speed Steel. $24.33. I'll just have to find myself a .224 bushing for my Redding 223 Type S bushing dies I suppose to get the 3- thousandths neck tension I'll feel comfortable with for this 20 Practical AR-15. I've been thinking about having a 20 practical made. You feel the expander touching going in on the .228? Bullets used include, from left: Barnes 26-grain Varmint Grenade, Hornady 32-grain V-MAX, Sierra 32-grain BlitzKing, Berger 35-grain Varmint, Sierra 39-grain BlitzKing, Hornady 40-grain V-MAX. For its 55-grain BT, Berger recommends a one-in-8-inch or faster twist. Use a Redding Type S 223 dies, and use 2 seperate bushings to neck down to 20 cal. All my Brass is LC. #2666026 - 04/01/14 08:14 AM Re: Forming 20 practical with RCBS Dies/equipment [ Re: dogduster204 ] You have to use the bushing die so you can neck down to 20 cal.It takes more than one step so you need to change size of bushing and your regular 223 die cant do that. Since all these cartridges are built around a love of varmint hunting, this is an important consideration. This is especially useful for reloaders who are using commercial brass as is. We've compiled complete ballistics tables for the most popular Berger, Hornady, and Sierra Bullets, with drop and wind-drift calculated from 100 to 500 yards. We have found the best method to make Custom dies is to use your fired brass from the rifles chamber. Nor is there a need for neck turning. Shipping: One flat fee of $12.95 per online order. We offer Custom Sizers, Seaters, Hydraulic Form Dies and Trim Dies from .20 Caliber to .408. - 20 Practical - 20 Tactical - 30 ARX. For example, the Hornady 40-grain V-MAX has a published BC of .275; that of the Sierra 39-grain BlitzKing is .287. I'm using Norma USA match brass, the neck wall thickness is .013. The decapper you listed is for a regular size die, not the type s. Sinclair has all this stuff. Are there any options for dies other than Redding Type S 223 with different a bushing? Concentricity is enhanced by the ability of the resizing bushing to selfcenter. Although not necessary, annealing tends to help the fire-forming process and extends the life of the brass a bit.Lapua Tactical 20 Brass Is HereLapua-brand Tactical 20 brass has arrived in the USA, and is available through Dakota Arms, Graf & Sons and other retailers. I have read all sorts of things. The decapper you listed is for a regular size die, not the type s. Sinclair has all this stuff. $20.00 223 seater die works just fine to seat bullets. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Durable Tap And Die Tap 3/8\"-32 UNEF High Speed Steel Practical Silver at the best online prices at eBay! Why? The VarTarg may be the smallest 20-Caliber cartridge in our survey, but it comes up big in efficiency. dies are supplied with both the standard size button and a decapping pin retainer for the advantages and versatility described under our Type S - Bushing Style Neck Sizing Dies. Low noise derived from relatively small powder charges in small capacity cases coupled with long barrels plays well in settled areas and among farmers who would prefer to keep things down to a roar. A decapping pin retainer is also supplied with most Type S - Bushing Dies except 17 and 20 Cal. Once the entire batch is made, we send them out to be hardened via a carburized heat treat process to ensure a lifetime of use. Ive been assured that my one-in-12-inch barrel twist will stabilize all bullet weights up through 45 grains. For example, as stated earlier, some rifles will shoot a Hornady 32gr V-MAX very well, but they won't shoot the 40gr V-MAX. This makes the 20 Practical a great choice for an AR-based varmint rifle. Although we have heard no complaint about the Berger bullets no being explosive enough, polymer tip bullets (Hornady and Sierra) tend to be more explosive than the Berger, but maybe not quite as accurate. Once the entire batch is made, we send them out to be hardened via a carburized heat treat process to ensure a lifetime of use. Gain twist bbls cost about 100.00 more than standard twist bbls. The "20. Thanks! A raceway cut in the bolt body captures the bolt release on the left side of the receiver and serves to prevent binding. To create 20 Practical cases, just buy a .223 Rem Redding Type "S" Bushing Die . The 20 Practical gives the SAME performance as the 20 Tactical without fire-forming, or having to buy expensive forming dies. We understand early in a rifle build fired brass may not be available. Also if you have a regular 223 die you can use that without the decapper/expander for the first step and only need the final bushing to finish. Please read before using our Custom Sizer Die, Lead time for Custom dies is currently averaging 10 weeks. by Redding Reloading Equipment.All Rights Reserved. I have a RCBS 223 FL die set for my RCBS press. AcknowledgementsKory Hamzeh and 6mmBR.com would like to thank, in alphabetical order, WarrenB (Fireball), LeRoy Benson (Silverfox), Blake (CajunBlake), Al Boyechko, Alex Clarke, Dan Clements (DanC), Brooks Harman, Richard Miller (REM), Dave Moore, John Siebel (SnakeEye), Bob Smith, Doug Stiner (MontDoug), and Gary Wenzl. These features provide not only an enhanced degree of control but significant improvements to consistency and accuracy of the final loaded rounds. The groups didn't look very good yesterday but the wind was blowing pretty hard and I wondered if it was moving around my target frame. Upon return, we bead blast, hand polish, inspect and process for shipping so please ensure you factor in the turnaround time when ordering. Warren's cartridge was aptly named. Wolfe Publishing Company | 2180 Gulfstream Suite A | Prescott, AZ 86301. 20 Practical Cartridge - Making Brass and Loading - YouTube A video showing how easy it is to make brass for and load the 20 Practical cartridge A video showing how easy it is to make brass. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Ambient temperature changes, powder lot variations, and differences in barrel friction can result in significantly increased pressures. These bushings are also free-floating to self- center on the case neck for a higher degree of sizing accuracy. True Boat-Tail bullets normally have less bearing surface area than Flat-Base bullets of the same weight. The author has had excellent results using IMI brass, which is strong and very durable.Forming 20 Tactical brass is generally a two-step process. Concentricity is enhanced by the ability of the bushing to self-center on the neck of the cartridge case. So yeah! document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) From left: the .223 Remington case full-length resized, a case run through the .20 Tactical seating die, a case full-length sized in the .20 Tactical die, the .223 Remington case after form-and-trim die use (note the wrinkle below the shoulder), the .20 Tactical case fireformed. Varmints probably won't know the difference. I have about 5k of it sitting around from the 80's. Most of the credit must go to the fine Cooper rifle and good bullets, but the cartridge design is certainly entitled to its share. Is there another way? You start with a 223 Remington brass that has been full-length sized in a .223 die. Comes with 30mm rings and bases pictured. Uses the same interchangeable bushings (.001" increments) as those used in our bushing style neck sizing dies. No form dies needed. . . Before putting too much stock in what size bushing everyone lists measure your brass. When running tests with the above bullets and a variety of powders, the best results occurred with the Sierra 39-grain BlitzKing, closely followed by the Hornady 32-grain V-MAX. Cooper is well along on this small-caliber journey and chambers its rifles for many of the .17- and .20-caliber cartridges. Of course it did rain the next day. Full Length Die Sets For Bottleneck Cases Full length die sets for bottleneck cases contain two dies. Finally, the case is run into the full-length .20 Tactical sizing die that sets the shoulder back and makes the cases ready for fireforming. Location: Iowa. Free shipping for many products! A special thanks goes to Todd Kindler, whose hard work over the years has brought the merits of sub-caliber cartridges to the attention of the general shooting community. Below are some examples of a radius shoulder compared to an angled shoulder. The real beauty of the .20s, however, is in the numbers ballistic coefficient (BC) numbers, to be specific. This McGowan barrel shoots pretty well with the 32g Noslers HP, and WC844. I only saw barrels longer than 20" listed at WOA. Less than 5 in stock Item #: RED78660 REDDING 20 TAC TYPE-S ELITE BUSHING 3-DIE SET . I ordered .226 bushing as per the information I found on accurate shooter. Looking for 18 6mm ARC barrel, but theres a catch. Once fired .223 Norma USA brass neck ID is .226-.227 with a neck thickness of .013. It seems to be a good combination of case capacity and bullet. The latest, the Redding, Type S Elite die set is also a direct result of customer feedback and is available for 85 different cartridges. I see 20 Tactical dies but none for 20 Practical. When it came to powders, a bakers dozen that had been given some play in published data was selected. forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/crimp-die-for-20-practical.4062155/, Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 14_7_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/14.1.2 Mobile/15E148 Safari/604.1. The author has had great results using Redding dies with Hornady Unique Case Lube, while others prefer Imperial Sizing Die Wax. The project has been great fun, and Ive never shot as many three-shot groups with all bullets making a single hole as was experienced with the .20 Tactical. Concentricity is enhanced by the ability of the bushing to self-center on the neck of the cartridge case. Pet Loads and Handloader are registered trademarks of Wolfe Publishing Company. We've run the ballistics for a range of start velocities, so you can compare different cartridges. Redding had developed, he said, a technique for forming .20 Tactical from .223 Remington brass without it. Currently, Cooper Arms of Montana and Dakota Arms offer factory rifles in Tactical 20 chamberings.Since the Tac 20's parent case is the ubiquitous .223 Remington, there is a huge selection of high quality brass available, limited only by your budget. If you are uncertain just email a photo of the cartridge and we can make a determination. The Tactical 20 has about three grains less case capacity than the.204 Ruger dies grinding. Bought the barrel that had been given some play in published data was.... 3900 fps, and shoot variations, and differences in barrel friction can result in significantly increased pressures best i... Fl die set for my RCBS press bullets used the dimensions through transition are in! My RCBS press - 20 Tactical - 30 ARX of Montana and Dakota Arms factory... Running close to 3800 fps only part of the lot, i have formed over 1000 pcs 20. 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