Alto $4600 thumbrest on some models. The fourth character indicated the instrument: "1" = Cornet, "2" = Trumpet, "3" = Alto Horn, "4" = French Horn, "5" = Mellophone, "6" = Valve Trombone, "7" = Slide Trombone, "8" = Baritone Horn & Euphonium, "9" = Tuba, and "10" = Sousaphone. All Rights Reserved. Similar adjustments for finish. Thanks to the person that assembled this! What's ONE rolled-tone-hole (LP), Eb Alto Naked Lady with It works only in coordination with the primary cookie. burnished. Less evident "art deco" engraving on the bell, but this is not So saxophones may not be numbered sequentially. over all, pearl inlaid keys and rollers, bell richly hand-engraved. a common practice to get old bare-brass horns lacquered Then came some #277k horns markedVIII NATLon both the hornandneck. 24M Conn-O-Sax (F Alto) Add 20% for silver. Baritone $ 2800. The __gads cookie, set by Google, is stored under DoubleClick domain and tracks the number of times users see an advert, measures the success of the campaign and calculates its revenue. Tenor $1400 Most of the Zephyr series was in lacquer, add 15% for silver. The Superba I has rolled tone holes, the Superba II does not. > Satin Gold Plate (0) 32. -the letterAat the end of most alto serial numbers in this period (andonlythis period) Alto $ 2200 Ive never seen a gold example. hand burnished. ARISTOCRAT 330XXX 360XXX underslung octave key and redesigned octave mechanism C melody $ 800 design) were probably discontinued by this time. Longest production run in Selmer history. Sopranino, soprano, baritone, and bass Mk VIs were made until the introduction of the Super 80 series. 8M C Melody Tenor they also occasionally used the appleations that are in Search. It's a completely made up name, as Conn started to refer to these horns by model number only. Installed by Google Analytics, _gid cookie stores information on how visitors use a website, while also creating an analytics report of the website's performance. For altos, the serial number range of the transitional horns is roughly 234,000 to 270,000- give or take a few- which means from roughly 1930 to 1935. No,No, the M prefix denotes the ARTIST models eg.M266xxxA (my late tranny/6M). Stripe sets this cookie cookie to process payments. Plate (2) Buy Conn Tenor Saxophone Saxophones and get the best deals at the lowest prices on eBay! Records the default button state of the corresponding category & the status of CCPA. View similar gear from other sellers on Reverb. In other words, The pattern stays the same, but it takes up a larger space on the bell. From 1965 until 1988, these fine German horns (manufactured by J. Keilworth) were distributed at various times by W. T. Armstrong and Conn. Alto $1200 . These are merely the most obvious physical changes to the alto, which also had an entirely new and much-improved key mechanism and a new body tube, giving improved intonation and much easier volume control. A famous example would be the early 30s Conn instruments. Alto $ 1800 The fourth character indicated the instrument: The remaining numbers indicated the production number within the month. or nickel keys. Watch this gear and we'll notify you if it becomes available again. Tenor Zephyr Spcl $ 3000 add 15% for silver neck Once this initial batch with the NM stamp is done, the stamp disappears- probably because there was no reason to differentiate anymore as all horns were now the New Model. Copyright 1994 - 2023. in keywork design. Alto $ 2300 Horns made for the European market are often unengraved, and lacquered examples may have silver plated keywork. There are a few examples with gold inlay on the silver bell (add 15%), a few rare silver plated horns (I own one, add 20%); and a very few gold plated ones (add 25%). > Burnished Gold Plate (00), 4M The pre 1960 horns follow the numbers well. Pristine examples bring top dollar. Apart from minor scratches, this horn is is good shape. > Silver & Gold (1) If the model "Connstellation" is engraved on the leadpipe, then it is a 28B Connstellation trumpet. Straight soprano $1600 Saxophone.org. MARTIN HORNS THROUGH 1933 6 Its important that the serial numbers on the neck match the body. They have an A after the serial number. from 1930 to 1940. YouTube sets this cookie to store the video preferences of the user using embedded YouTube video. NEW ARISTOCRAT 255XXX 270XXX 6M Eb Alto VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The necks have a new, quicker-changing microtuner. Alto Magna $ 2300 Eb Baritone the patent number 1119954 should not be confused with a serial number.) 262xxx is a transitional, that plays like a 6M . corrections, suggestions or picture submissions: saxpics@gmail.com. 6 : Body heavily nickel plated and highly polished, pearl *1980 - 1986 serial numbers are for student trumpet and cornets only. Some examples have screw in resonators. Bass $ 7500. See our cookie policy here. Along with the 12M baritone, made from 1929-69, and 10M tenor, made from 1934-69, the 6M enjoyed the longest production run of any saxophone, by any maker. All the new ones have a yellow 400 SERIES 291XXX 381XXX The horns made during that time are almost all Transitional 6Ms, identical to later 6Ms except for certain neck details (not all known, as summarized above) and, of course, the swivel thumbhook. 20 July 2012 Cornet section: Replaced picture on 20A Flugelhorn (1926). post by keltonshields. SUPERBA I These are the Top Hat and Cane horns, the best of the Bueschers. 0 bids. Great Savings & Free Delivery / Collection on many items . It has not yet been overhauled, and is pictured in its current state with pads that are about 50 years old. 5 C melody $ 800 It is near mint condition, even though it is 75 years old! refreshing change. 1927 catalog. This is essentially a renamed Super with different engraving. Ive seen some 400 baris, but none with top hat and cane engraving or other distinctive features of this series. It just got a complete overhaul by Matt Stohrer, and it's the best playing 10M I've sold in years. The Conn Transitional features split-bell keys, rolled tone holes, a microtuner on . The widely available original Conn brass serial . Starting at #268xxx (1935) was the deluxe 26M Connqueror(additional info here), with the permadjust key foot system, redesigned LH pinkies, and solid silver touches. Baritone $2500. Conn started using letter prefixes on serial numbers in 1963. I used to have a 1932 transitional alto with a New York neck. > Silver & Gold (1) Plate (6) This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. > Nickel Plate (6) didn't change until around 263xxx. Conn ws a highly organized and mechanized production. Keys inlaid with Youll see these with different keywork styles, and almost always with elaborate engraving. It does not store any personal data. vintage alto saxophone top tenons for alto saxophone. Ask the seller privately for the number and do a search for that instrument. Tenor Zephyr $ 2400 The Mark VI was an impossible act to follow. Alto Zephyr Spcl. This particular sax is silver plated and is a great horn in terms of sound, building quality and technical finishing. Baritone $1800 To me, I think that since the term transitional is unofficial, it is easier and make more sense to apply it as it is defined- therefore to all saxophones from the end of the New Wonder Series II line that have any of the new features that eventually end up on the 6M. a new alto was introduced which set the saxophone world on me! There seem to be very few people (outside of a few collectors) buying these horns. Some of these are beautifully engraved (add 10%). On the one hand, this could simply mean that a body tube was stamped accidentally in the second digit with a zero- which would give it a serial from an earlier run, and the X was to denote a horn with a duplicate serial number. There is a very good reason that demand (and prices) for these horns is so high: although not without their quirks, these are wonderful instruments. inlaid finger tips, pearl rollers. The horns stamped METROhad the STDD M neck, and horns stamped NATL had the STDD N neck. Updated text on 1911 Large bore Bb and C. Updated Cornet model number . I believe Finish 3 refers to a silver-plated horn without I think these horns are undervalued. Ive also heard that the X could stand for a horn that was used by Conn as a floor model of sorts for their education outreach programs. 2. -the 26M Connqueror series beginning in 1935 (also offered with an optional overslung neck ofyet anotherdesign) is characterized by: 1. There are quite a few saxophone serial number charts on the internet, these ones have mostly been adapted from existing manufacturers and saxophone enthusiasts charts. The VIII featured a new microtuner, a one-piece, nonswivel thumbhook, and some unknown changes to the neck. These are the first horns that really sound like Selmers. Curved soprano $ 2200 deduct 20% if keyed to Eb only my donation or the profits from the banner ads & calendar going toward? Silver examples bring about a 20% premium; gold plate about 30% more. generally feature a stylized full "Naked Lady" in Add 15% for this feature. A serial network scheme with a small network size is designed for small user applications, and a parallel network scheme with high speed is designed for places such as data centres. of horns. To some, the true transitionals are only the saxophones with left-hand bell keys. sand blast velvet finish, bell richly engraved, pearl finger I have found that most of the action in pre-Balanced Action horns is just talk. Alto $ 6100 The British connection may explain also the less than revealing lady. The 234,xxx saxophone with the sculpted side E key would have been produced in late 1929, and this first modification to the New Wonder II would have been a direct result of the founding a little over a year earlier of Conns famed Experimental Laboratory led by saxophone design genius Allen Loomis. VII No. Conn Trumpet Notes Catalogue - Vol. and bass models (actually during the late New Wonder period) Usually seen in silver. > Nickel Plate (6) For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. > Silver This article includes (with permission) information from posts on the forum at Saxontheweb by saxophone historian/geek Paul Lindemeyer, author of Celebrating the Saxophone, and photos and information from Brian at Getasax.com. Up until 75XXX, no rolled tone holes. About the 6Mand the stamp (Paul Lindemeyer). Interesting to see, anyways. 32. Repairing and overhauling these 6M variants is relatively straightforward, but I would recommend bringing them to a vintage saxophone specialist- ideally someone familiar with Conns- for best results. > Silver & Gold (1) There are quite a few saxophone serial number charts on the internet, these ones have mostly been adapted from existing . for refinish work, the repairman would look at the horn and swivel thumbrest It's there. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. Oops, looks like you forgot something. Microtuners; and adjustable pivot screws; and added an entirely I've not seen Finish 5 on any Curved soprano $2500 horn. for about what that horn would have cost today.). Search. Baritone Typewriter $ 3500 6, 1882 C.G. "Transitional" 1927 dollar = 10.05 2006 dollars. YSC cookie is set by Youtube and is used to track the views of embedded videos on Youtube pages. Grafton Acrylic Alto Saxophone; HOLTON. new "longer" design and the bari and bass didn't Baritone Bb $7000 Conn was one of the largest saxophone manufacturers of its day, and its production volume was quite high. Plate (2) don't ask for the web address because i don't remember. "Transitional" refers to Conn's change from the New Wonder series of horns to the 4/6/10/12/14M Artist ("Naked Lady") series of horns. During much of the period 1932-37, there are other variables that may or may not be significant: -the optional non-tuner (andthe very rare tunable) overslung alto necks The name alone inspires reverence. If a seller does hide part of the number you may wonder if they are trying to hide the fact that it is stolen. Baritone $ 3400 has no chromatic F# DAddario Reserve alto mouthpiece (review), Understanding Transposition for Saxophones, Our friendly & informative saxophone forum. Some early 26Ms were also marked METRO or NATL, with serials suffixed AM or AN. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". Saxello soprano $ 3200 add 15% for gold plate Alto $ 900 These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. The name comes from the bell engraving. The baritones are particularly rich sounding. I am currently working on measuring Conn transitional necks, and when I have a conclusion (if I reach one) I will post it here. Sopranino $ 2000 Ending 19 Apr at 9:00PM BST 8d 1h Collection in person. According to serial number lookup, it is a 1932. Holton - Chicago; . My current opinion is that there were either a couple Tranny/6M ) if it becomes available again and horns stamped METROhad the M. Submissions: saxpics @ gmail.com gear and we 'll notify you if it becomes available again AM or.! 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