Comments on: Phil Ivey The Tiger Woods of Poker?

By: billthedonk

billthedonk — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:54:10 +0000

Tiger missed the cut at the OPEN CHAMPIONSHIP(formerly the British Open) not the Masters! Anyways every player at every level in every sport gets frustrated when things don’t go there way. Some are better at controlling there emotions and playing it off like nothing is wrong, but they all feel it. Ivey showed some of this when his nut flush was beatn by the fullhouse of the irish guy who stood up and told him he didn’t have the nuts and pocket kings could have beat him. With that the sports comparisons will always be there and there will always be debate and there will always be people on both sides of the debate. Tiger Woods is Tiger Woods and Phil Ivey is Phil Ivey that alone is enough!

By: Chinaman

Chinaman — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:04:00 +0000

Hey, remember when I said last week that Hellmuth was more like Tiger than Ivey is?

Looks like my point is more valid now, than ever. After sucking dong and getting cut from the masters, several publications wrote about Tiger’s whiny, selfish and poor attitude toward the game and the other players.

Who does that sound like?

By: Brian Heptinstall

Brian Heptinstall — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:13:29 +0000

The funny thing about all of these posts is that in 2 weeks time, it will all be forgotten. Ivey = Woods….forgotten. Good/bad/meh/…forgotten. All time winnings…ditto. So, before you jump on anyone for bringing these points to the forefront, remember that you’ll lose interest and not think one more time about it until the N9 kicks back up. Kudos to the guys that are trying to keep the N9 in the spotlight!

…..he’s no Tiger! He’s just catching up to his own name.

By: JaySin420

JaySin420 — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:55:36 +0000

Nobody will ever be the Tiger Woods of anything, that’s how great Tiger is.

By: BJ Nemeth

BJ Nemeth — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:21:53 +0000

Ah yes, the much-larger-than-this debate over which earnings to count and which ones to discount. I think yours is a fair line, so I’ll leave it at that.

If I had to pick a clear line as to whether or not to count a tournament toward career stats, I’d say that invitationals and closed events (Seniors-only & Ladies-only) don’t count. That immediately rules out all made-for-TV poker tournaments like Poker After Dark, Poker Superstars, NBC Heads-Up, and the WPT Celebrity Invitational.

By my calculations, invitational tourneys add about $1 million to Ivey’s career stats on the Hendon Mob (primarily $400K from Poker Superstars, and $600K from a 2005 Full Tilt Invitational in Monte Carlo). Of course, that brings us right back to your claim that Phil Ivey needs to finish fourth or higher to become the all-time live tournament money winner — and I’ll amend my earlier comment and back you up on that.